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    Default The diphthong in "smoke"

    I know the American pronounciation of the diphthong in words like "smoke", "boat", "go" is produced as "OU", with the first part of the diphthong as a CLOSE "O", but I often hear an OPEN "O" too, for example the "O" of "dog". Can I pronounce it both ways? Does this depend on the speaker? or what?

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    An open “o” /]/ is not a diphthong. We pronounce the word “dog” as /d]+g/ or dY+g/, i.e., with the open “o” (the Cardinal vowel 6) or the script “A” (Cardinal 5) but never as a diphthong /c/ or /o/.

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhaheart View Post
    An open “o” /]/ is not a diphthong. We pronounce the word “dog” as /d]+g/ or dY+g/, i.e., with the open “o” (the Cardinal vowel 6) or the script “A” (Cardinal 5) but never as a diphthong /c/ or /o/.
    No, maybe you didn't get it. I meant to ask if the first part of the diphthong "OU" (like in "smoke") can be pronounce STILL as a diphthong, but with the first part (the "O" part) as a opened "O", instead of using the closed one; cause I heard pronounciations like this all the time.

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ 4 life View Post
    No, maybe you didn't get it. I meant to ask if the first part of the diphthong "OU" (like in "smoke") can be pronounce STILL as a diphthong, but with the first part (the "O" part) as a opened "O", instead of using the closed one; cause I heard pronounciations like this all the time.
    Perhaps it would help if you gave examples of such words, where you heard them and whether the speaker was using a regional accent.

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    Perhaps it would help if you gave examples of such words, where you heard them and whether the speaker was using a regional accent.
    I got the video on my computer. How can I put it in the Internet?

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Upload it on YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. . You need to create a free account for this though.

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Sonic View Post
    Upload it on YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. . You need to create a free account for this though.
    OK, thank you, I think it's easier and faster for me to give you the link to another website, COMING SOON , it's right the first sentence of the video, when he says:"..., it was time to go HOME" he pronounce "home" with a clear opened "o" here, doesn't he?

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Could anyone tell me if he pronounce "home" with an opened "O" (something like "hawm"), and, if he does, why?

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Quote Originally Posted by CJ 4 life View Post
    Could anyone tell me if he pronounce "home" with an opened "O" (something like "hawm"), and, if he does, why?
    It's an American accent.

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    Default Re: The diphthong in "smoke"

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    It's an American accent.
    I kinda know it's an American accent, I just wanted to make sure he pronounces an opened "O", but above all, WHY? I searched the Net but I didn't find this type of pronounciation. bhaisahab, what do you mean by saying it's an American accent, the accent in which he speaks or just this particular type of pronounciation?

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