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    Default Slang for a man who pretends young

    mutton dressed as lamb
    Hi, I wonder whether there 's a similar idiom or slang to describe a man rather a woman who looks like a mutton dressed as lamb? Thanks!

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    A sheep in wolf's clothing.

    (I am at a loss as why the heavy focus on idioms for the non-English reader/speaker. Can you ask your teacher why so much time and effort is spent on idioms?)

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    Hi susieudqq,
    We are forced to focus on so much idioms and phrasal verbs because people want us to speak like idigenuous speakers because they add so many idioms in their speeches... But too many idioms just make the learners seem ridiculous

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    Hi Susieudqq,

    Thanks for your response. I am not a student any more. I am just curious to learn whether there's an equivalence for " mutton dressed as a lamb for an older man.

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    Quote Originally Posted by belly_ttt View Post
    Hi susieudqq,
    We are forced to focus on so much idioms and phrasal verbs because people want us to speak like idigenuous speakers because they add so many idioms in their speeches...
    Hi Belly,

    I am not the type of person who are forced to focus on idioms for the reason of speaking like native speakers. I look for this because several days ago I read a similar Chinese slang about it so I'd like to learn whether there is an equivalence one or not.

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi Susieudqq,

    Thanks for your response. I am not a student any more. I am just curious to learn whether there's an equivalence for " mutton dressed as [a] lamb for an older man.
    (Note, no a; it's not 'wearing clothes that make her look like a younger thing' it's 'presented [at the table] like a tenderer [because younger] sort of meat'. I've heard 'a lamb', but only in the mouths of people who don't know what the word 'dressed' means in this context.)

    And, with respect to susiedqq, I don't really think 'wolf in sheep's clothing' does the same job. A wolf in sheep's clothing can be a person of either sex, who is aggressive or dangerous, and pretends to be peaceful. The sort of 'wolf' that has to be a man (a sexual predator) isn't necessarily connected to the 'wolf in sheep's clothing' image (though it may be, in some cases, if the speaker wants to 'kill two birds with one stone' [make one thing - in this case a metaphor - serve two purposes).

    I'm afraid I can't think of an idiomatic phrase to describe to a man who pretends to be [or 'pretends he's...'] young; note - you need a verb here, though you could use a noun in the rather academic/formal/stuffy 'makes a pretence of youth'.

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    How about this:

    No fool like an old fool.

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    Dear Mr. Bobk,

    Your answer is great! Now I totally understood the idiom-Mutton dressed as lamb. Yesterday, I browsed through a piece of news about British singer Lulu, around 50 years old. She performed at cult stage with skimpy dress. And then I read a comment from its reader who said " she is like mutton dressed as lamb." Now I understood how sarcastic the reader is!

    As to Susiedqq's answer, I agreed with you. She might misunderstand me due to my poor English expression.

    And the key for my question is just a small fry. I was curious only.

    Have a good day!
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 29-Apr-2008 at 13:05.

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    Hi Clark,

    Thanks for your response. Cheers!

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    Default Re: Slang for a man who pretends young

    It is one of those curious facts of life - women are denigrated for dressing in a way that is young, but men are not, so there is no idiom to express denigration of a man who dresses in a youthful manner.

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