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    Are these correct? If not, why?
    1. He had an awesome time when he graduated.
    2. He have an awesome time when he graduated.

    3. He had seen that before when he graduated.
    4. He have seen that before when he graduated.

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    If he graduated in the past, then he had an awesome time in the past.

    1. He had an awesome time when he graduated. (Past + Past) OK
    2. He has an awesome time when he graduated. (Present + Past) Not OK

    3. He had seen that before when he graduated. (Past + Past) OK
    4. He has seen that before when he graduated. (Present + Past) Not OK

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    4. He has seen that before when he graduated. (Present + Past) Not OK
    Why is it wrong? Doesn't this mean ‘He have seen that before when He graduated and now He remembers it?

    Or
    Des it mean 'He have seen that before when he graduated and now he still sees it.' which is wrong?
    How do I know which one does it mean?

    Are these correct? If not, why?
    1. I had never met him before until now.
    2. I have never met him before until now.

    3. I have not seen him before until now.
    4. I had not seen him before until now.

    Last edited by jack; 05-Nov-2004 at 09:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    4. He has seen that before when he graduated. Why is it wrong? Doesn't this mean ‘He have seen that before when He graduated and now He remembers it? Or does it mean 'He have seen that before when he graduated and now he still sees it.' which is wrong? How do I know which one does it mean?


    Firstly, He have is incorrect. Let's get the number agreement working: It should be He has. Secondly, 'have seen' (present perfect) and 'graduated' (simple past) are not compatible:

    He has seen that in the past when he graduated. (Not OK)
    He has seen that before. (OK)
    The first time he saw it was when he graduated. (OK)

    1. I had never met him before (1st event), until now (2nd event). OK
    2. I have never met him before (1st event), until now (2nd event). Not OK
    3. I have not seen him before, until now. Not OK
    4. I had not seen him before, until now. OK



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    Are these correct? If not, why?

    What do these mean?
    1. I have heard people say that.
    2. I have heard people saying that.
    3. I have heard people said that.

    4. I never had this problem. (past?)
    5. I never have this problem. (Fact?)

    6. I never had this problem before. (past?)
    7. I never have this problem before. (fact? This is correct, right? And this is wrong 'I never have this problem before until now.' right?)

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    1. I have heard people say that. (OK; Fact)
    2. I have heard people saying that... (OK; Add to it, though)
    3. I have heard people said that. (Not OK; 'have' is not compatible with 'said')
    4. I never had this problem. (Try, have never had)
    5. I never have this problem. (OK; Fact)
    6. I never had this problem before. (Try, have never had)
    7. I never have this problem before. (Try, never had ... before) Past

    When, for example, "I" and "have" are contracted to "I've", the final sound [v] is often pronounced as [f], which makes it difficult to hear, so it may sound as if the speaker is saying, "I never", when in actuality s/he is saying, "I[f] never", meaning "I've never":

    I have never => I've never => I[v] never ~ I[f] never, which sounds like "I never"

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    3. I have heard people said that. (Not OK; 'have' is not compatible with 'said')
    Why Can't I use 'said'? Can you explain it to me? Thanks. I can do this but I can't use 'said' for the one above?:
    1. I think he said that. (correct)
    2. I thought he says that. (incorrect)


    4. I never had this problem. (Try, have never had)
    6. I never had this problem before. (Try, have never had)
    These are not wrong right?
    3. I have never had this problem before. ('Try, have never had' How come I can use 'have never had' when 'before' is there? Doesn't it mean I don't have this problem before? Not now I do?)

    7. I never have this problem before. (Try, never had ... before) Past
    The one above is wrong for sure right?
    I have never => I've never => I[v] never ~ I[f] never, which sounds like "I never"
    This doesn't mean it is wrong if I use 'I never' right? Or does it mean 'I (have) never' where 'have' is omitted?)
    Last edited by jack; 11-Nov-2004 at 09:24.

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    2. I thought he says that. (incorrect)
    => Should be Past 'thought' and Past 'said'

    3a. I have never had this problem before. (OK)
    3b. I've never had this problem before. (OK)
    3c. I'[f] never had this problem before. (OK)
    3d. I never have liver. (OK. I never eat liver.)
    3e. I have never had liver (before). (OK. I have never eaten liver before.)

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    Thanks.

    3. I have heard people said that. (Not OK; 'have' is not compatible with 'said')
    Why can't I use 'said' for the one above? It works here:
    1. I think he said that. (How come 'think' is compatible with 'said' but the one above doesn't work?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    Thanks.

    Why can't I use 'said' for the one above? It works here:
    1. I think he said that. (How come 'think' is compatible with 'said' but the one above doesn't work?)
    One of these doesn't belong: (Can you see the pattern? )

    have heard (Present Perfect)
    said (Simple Past)

    think (Simple Present)
    said (Simple Past)

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