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    #1

    another question about tense

    Hi, everyone.

    Which of the following two sentences is right?
    You will succeed the second time you try.
    You will succeed the second time you will try.

    What is the grammar rule for this question and similar ones? Could you show me some explanation or search keywords?

    Thank you very much in advance.

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    #2

    Re: another question about tense

    You will succeed if you try.
    Conditional clause.
    Ex.If you work hard you will succeed.

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    Re: another question about tense

    [quote=enydia;293318]

    Which of the following two sentences is right?
    You will succeed the second time (when) you try. Correct. When is never followed by "will". We use "when + Present simple although we talk about future.
    You will succeed the second time you will try. Incorrect.
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    Re: another question about tense

    [quote=banderas;293326]
    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post

    Which of the following two sentences is right?
    You will succeed the second time (when) you try. Correct. When is never followed by "will". We use "when + Present simple although we talk about future.
    You will succeed the second time you will try. Incorrect.
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    Thank you.

    I see another sentence as follows:
    It will be the second time I've met him.

    Is this sentenece grammatically right? If it is, does it conflict with 'you will succeed the second time (when) you try'?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: another question about tense

    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post

    I see another sentence as follows:
    It will be the second time I've met him.
    In sentences like "it's the first time", "it's the second time" we use Present Perfect because you talk about your experiences up to now.

    Getting back to your original post, you can say:
    "You will succeed next time (the second time) when you try" or "when you have tried".
    But in "It is the first time/second time" we say "I have tried" not I try/trying.

    Is this sentenece grammatically right? Yes, Enydia, it is.
    If it is, does it conflict with 'you will succeed the second time (when) you try'?No it does not.
    Cheers.


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    Re: another question about tense

    Quote Originally Posted by banderas View Post
    Cheers.
    very helpful!
    Thanks

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