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    Hi, everyone.

    What's the exact meaning of the undermentioned sentence? Can you help me analyze this sentence?

    More than twice as many tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled each year than (are tons of) newspaper.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Hi Enydia

    For an analysis of the sentence you'll probably need a teacher, but the meaning of the sentence is that:

    For every ton of newspaper that is recycled, more than 2 tons of corrugated cardboard (packaging material) are recycled.

    Hope this helps for the moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    Hi Enydia

    For an analysis of the sentence you'll probably need a teacher, but the meaning of the sentence is that:

    For every ton of newspaper that is recycled, more than 2 tons of corrugated cardboard (packaging material) are recycled.

    Hope this helps for the moment
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    Thank you very much, Neillythere.

    However, I really wonder how to get the meaning you provided from the sentence.

    Enydia

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    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post
    Hi, everyone.

    More than twice as many tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled each year than (are tons of) newspaper.
    Hi, Enydia.

    I think..."than" should be..."as", shouldn't it?

    Perhaps, the meaning of the sentence might be....

    The number of corrugated cardboard recycled each year is more than(over?)twice as many as that of newspaper.(in tons??)

    Please take it as one of the non-native speaker's opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post
    Thank you very much, Neillythere.

    However, I really wonder how to get the meaning you provided from the sentence.

    Enydia
    Not sure where the disconnect is, but if I were to put it this way, would it help to understand?

    More than twice as many tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled than tons of newspaper are recycled.
    or
    Over 2 tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled each year for every 1 Ton of newspaper that is recycled.

    Hope this helps
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    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hi, Enydia.

    The number of corrugated cardboard recycled each year is more than(over?)twice as many as that of newspaper.(in tons??)
    "many" above should have been "large," I think. I'm sorry.

    Neillythere's rephrasings are very easy to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enydia View Post
    More than twice as many tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled each year than (are tons of) newspaper.
    Is it possible to use "than" here, instead of "as"??

    I understand what the sentence means, but I'm not sure about the usage of "than" in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    Not sure where the disconnect is, but if I were to put it this way, would it help to understand?

    More than twice as many tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled than tons of newspaper are recycled.
    or
    Over 2 tons of corrugated cardboard are recycled each year for every 1 Ton of newspaper that is recycled.

    Hope this helps
    Regards

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    Regards
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    Thank you for your reply.

    The original sentence is from http://www.bartleby.com/64/C002/002.html

    My confusion is because of the fact that there is only one comparative (more) in the original sentence but there are two thans.
    Is it grammatically correct?
    If one than refers to the more, what does the other one refer to?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by enydia; 17-May-2008 at 01:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Is it possible to use "than" here, instead of "as"??

    I understand what the sentence means, but I'm not sure about the usage of "than" in this case.
    I have the same question as you.

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    Both thans are required. The phrase more than functions as a modifier for twice. The second than functions as a comparative; the meaning is, more Xs than Ys are recycled.


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