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    I hear / I heard

    Which would you prefer to use, "I heard that clause..." or "I hear clause..."?

    a. I hear that he is a famous architect.
    b. I heard that he is a famous architect.

    It seems to me that they both mean the same.

    How do they sound to you?
    How would you use them? Could you give me the possible context?

    Thank you in advance.

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    Re: I hear / I heard

    The simple present, I hear, is used to express a general fact, that the speaker did in fact hear that someone said ... .

    The simple past, I heard, is used to express an event that took place in the past.

    Both hear and heard work well in the sentences you provided. The choice is yours.


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    Re: I hear / I heard

    Thank you, Soup!
    It was such a quick reply!

    P.S.
    I love soup, especially the soup with lots of vegetables in it.
    Thank you again!

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    Re: I hear / I heard

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Which would you prefer to use, "I heard that clause..." or "I hear clause..."?

    a. I hear that he is a famous architect.
    b. I heard that he is a famous architect.

    It seems to me that they both mean the same.

    How do they sound to you?
    How would you use them? Could you give me the possible context?

    Thank you in advance.
    I'd say: I've heard he's a famous architect.

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    Re: I hear / I heard

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Smith View Post
    I'd say: I've heard he's a famous architect.
    Thank you for your comment, Harry Smith.
    Yes, I would use it to fucus on "the present" situation.

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    #6

    Re: I hear / I heard

    I hear (all the time) that...
    I heard (once in the past) that...
    I've heard (up to now, and I know that from experience of others) that....
    In your context, no matter which form you use.
    I would not have such a great selection in Polish (only I heard works), how about Japanese?
    Last edited by banderas; 26-May-2008 at 18:32. Reason: afterthought

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    Re: I hear / I heard

    Quote Originally Posted by banderas View Post
    I hear (all the time) that...
    I heard (once in the past) that...
    I've heard (up to now, and I know that from experience of others) that....
    In your context, no matter which form you use.
    Thank you, banderas!!
    I've heard your explanation is always easy to understand!


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    Re: I hear / I heard

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Smith View Post
    I'd say: I've heard he's a famous architect.
    Quite right. But in conversational English with some verbs present simple is used in place of present perfect:
    I am told he is ill. = I've been told he is ill.
    I hear he is ill. = I've heard he is ill.
    I forget the name. = I've forgotten the name.

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    Re: I hear / I heard

    Quote Originally Posted by banderas View Post
    I would not have such a great selection in Polish (only I heard works), how about Japanese?
    They are, I mean,..."Present Simple", "Past Simple", "Present Perfect" (as in the English language) are all OK in Japanese, I think. They don't make much difference in Japanese at least.

    "Present Perfect" and "Past Simple" are actually written(spoken) in the same way, so it's kind of confusing to me.

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