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    When I study a IETLS writing sample I've read a confused sentence in my English level.
    Although I can understand the all words the sentence include, but I can understand its meaning completely.

    This sentencen is :
    "Those who feel that sports starts salaries are juesified might argue that the number of professionals with real talent are very few, and the money is a recognition of the skills and dedication a person needs to be successful"

    The sentence I put color blue I didn't clear its grammar rule. Is "a person needs to be successful" a object clause? I mean it is modifier of "dedication" ? If it is I can't get any logical meaning form it.

    I hope someone can help me in which explainning the grammar rule of it.
    Please answer this question as detailed as possiable.

    Thanks for you view this post and your answer if there are.
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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    Is it clearer this way? :

    ...of the skills and of the dedication that a person needs in order to be successful.

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    I got little more understand, but I still have a bit confusion. maybe my problem is not clearly understand the be.
    Anyway thank you quick reply.

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    Those who feel that sports stars' salaries are justified might argue that the number of professionals with real talent are very few,

    and,

    [they might also argue that] the money [the sports stars make] is a recognition of the skills and dedication [that] a person needs [in order] to be successful.
    The compound phrase skills and dedication is modified by a person needs to be successful. In other words,
    ... a person needs skills and dedication in order to be successful.
    ... skills and dedication that a person needs in order to be successful.

    skill and dedication is what a person needs in order to be successful.

    Note, to is short for in order to, as David points out. Note also, successful is an adjective which is why it take be.
    in order to / be successful

    ... skills and dedication that a person needs in order to be successful.
    ... a person needs skills and dedication in order to be successful.

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    Your answer is excellent and careful, it is more clear and detailed. I've got some grammar knowledge from it and I now understand the whole sentence.
    I have know the reason of my confusion is that I didn't completely know that the using of to and be.

    Much thanks yours.

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    not a teacher

    [they might also argue that] the money [the sports stars make] is a recognition of the skills and dedication [that] a person needs [in order] to be successful.
    I would prefer the word 'has' or 'possesses'.
    Money is rewarded to a person who has the skills and dedication.

    not

    Money is rewarded to a person who needs the skills and dedication.

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    I think perhaps your misunderstand the sentence or I misunderstand your post. In the sentence "a person needs" is a noun.

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    In the sentence "a person needs" is a noun.
    I don't understand your sentence.

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    What the person needs/has to have/must possess..........if he is to succeed.
    'needs' is milder than 'has to have' and much milder than 'must have/possess'

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    Default Re: a bit difficult understands sentence maybe about clause need help

    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    I would prefer the word 'has' or 'possesses'. Money is rewarded to a person who has the skills and dedication.

    not

    Money is rewarded to a person who needs the skills and dedication.
    Needs is another way of saying requires; e.g., a person needs/requires certain things to be successful.


    xh4n, the phrase a person needs is not a noun:
    a person [noun phrase]
    needs [verb]

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