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    Hello,
    I'm sorry but it's the first time I discuss my doubts in a forum and so I have alot of questions to ask...
    I know that in the construction with 's no article can precede the possessive case

    a : "she' s a Frank's friend": it's incorrect and we should say "she's one of Frank's friends" or "she is a friend of Frank's"

    So I presume I can't say: Have you ever been to an Eminem's concert?
    Am I right? Should I saY : Have you ever been to a concert of( or by??) Eminem (or Eminem's??)
    Why is the title of the Chaplin's film correct? "A dog's life"? ; as far as I know I couldn't use the article before the substantive dog.
    Can somebody help me and correct my mistakes?
    Thanks
    Ripley

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripley
    (a) She's a Frank's friend.

    It's incorrect and we should say, "She's one of Frank's friends" or "She is a friend of Frank's."
    Apostrohoe -s is a contraction. It represents the verb is, like this,

    She is => She's

    Note, the apostrophe (') stands for the missing vowel "i".

    She's Frank's friend ~ She is Frank's friend. :D
    She's one of Frank's friends ~ She is one of Frank's friends. :D
    She's a Frank's friend ~ She is a Frank's friend. :(

    The reason "a Frank's friend" is incorrect has to do with how articles function. The modify Common nouns. Note that, "Frank", a name of a person, is a Proper noun. :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by ripley
    (b) Have you ever been to an Eminem's concert?
    (c) Have you ever been to a concert of ( or by??) Eminem (or Eminem's?)
    Try,

    (b) Have you been to an Eminem concert? :D (a type of concert)
    (c) Have you been to Eminem's concert? :D (name of a person/group)

    In (b) "Eminem" functions as an adjective. It tells us what kind of concert, whereas in (c) "Eminem" functions as a Proper noun, the name of a person or a group.

    (d) A dog's life :D (any "dog")
    (e) The dog's life. :D (specfic "dog")

    "dog" is not a Proper noun; however, "Spot", if it's the dog's name, is a Proper noun:

    (f) A Spot's life :(
    (g) The Spot's life :(
    (h) Spot's life :D

    All the best, :D

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    Thanks Casiopea,
    I have one more doubt; If I use sentence b, do you interpret the sentence as if I was asking if you have ever been to a concert like that of Eminem; that is rap and hip hop concert, but not necessarily a concert made by Eminen?
    And if I use sentence c, do you interpret that as if I was asking if you went to a specific concert by Eminem?
    Can I say: Have you ever been to a concert of Eminem's?
    Sorry I cannot understand what :) means;
    If Spot is the proper noun of the dog, why can I say A Spot's life? according to your explanation I would presume I couldn't say so.
    I a a little bit confused about the topic.
    Thanks a lot.
    Ripley


    (b) Have you been to an Eminem concert? :D (a type of concert)
    (c) Have you been to Eminem's concert? :D (name of a person/group)

    In (b) "Eminem" functions as an adjective. It tells us what kind of concert, whereas in (c) "Eminem" functions as a Proper noun, the name of a person or a group.

    (d) A dog's life :D (any "dog")
    (e) The dog's life. :D (specfic "dog")

    "dog" is not a Proper noun; however, "Spot", if it's the dog's name, is a Proper noun:

    (f) A Spot's life :(
    (g) The Spot's life :(
    (h) Spot's life :D

    All the best, :D[/quote]

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    Hello Cassiopea; sorry but at first i couldn't see the icons but only brackets and semicolon.....
    Ripley

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    You're welcome. :D

    I use the following emoticons this way:

    :D means, OK
    :( means, Not OK

    (b) Have you been to an Eminem concert? (a type of concert)
    (c) Have you been to Eminem's concert? (name of a person/group)


    (b) means, Have you ever been to this kind of concert? (i.e., style)
    (c) means, Have you been to a concert by the group called Eminem?

    Have you ever been to a concert of Eminem's? :D
    A Spot's life :(

    "Spot" is the name of a living being, so "a" meaning any living thing, and "the" meaning, a specific living being are not used. That is, since "Spot" has a name, "a" meaning any living thing, is not used. Moreover, since "Spot" is already specific--It's the dog's name--"the" is not needed.

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