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    I have been in German for two year. but after just the first my German is fluent. How should I write my sentence?
    Do I use the past tense because it was the first year and now is the second year?
    Should I use the have been form because it's still fluent?

    I got really fluent in German being here just after one year.
    I've gotten really fluent in German being here just after one year.

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    Try to avoid use of the word 'got' (gotten) - they are 'uneducated' English. 'got' is used as a universal substitute by the inarticulate.

    I got really fluent in German being here just after one year.
    I've gotten really fluent in German being here just after one year.


    I've become really fluent in German after being here for only a year.
    "I became really fluent in German in just one year of being here."
    or
    I've become really fluent in German in just one year of being here.
    "I became really fluent ..."

    Note that when you use 'after' with the past tense verb, that is, "I became...after one year/after a year", it suggests this fluency suddenly occurred at the end of that year, whereas the meaning is, that your fluency increased over the course of that year, so that by the end of that year, you considered you were 'really fluent'.
    e.g. I was promoted to Supervisor after only one year of working there.
    Last edited by David L.; 05-Jun-2008 at 11:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I have been in Germany for two years. But after just the first year my German became fluent. How should I write my sentence?
    Do I use the past tense because it was the first year and now is the second year?
    Should I use the 'have been' form because it's still fluent?

    I got really fluent in German being here just after one year.
    I've gotten really fluent in German being here just after one year.
    I got really fluent in German after just one year here.

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    Agree with David.
    'Become' is better than 'got', which sounds colloquial.

    I've become really fluent in German after being here for only a year.

    What about:
    I became (past tense) really fluent in German after being here for only a year.

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    Hi, to me, the tense I became does not match historically the end of sentence where you comment that you are here.

    If you were to be talking about the time you had in Germany and mentioning that you were there, then became would nicely fit.

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    the tense I became does not match historically

    Why not, SB?
    He said that he has been in Germany for two years.
    He became fluent in German just after one year which was one year ago.

    You could also say:
    I had become(past perfect) really fluent in German after being there for just one year.

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    Smile Re: fluent got gotten

    I do see what you mean but I became (past tense) coupled with 'here' also implies that something has changed: the person still lives in Germany and yet he talks of his fluency with the language in the past tense.

    Your second example is fine.

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    ...I became (past tense) coupled with 'here' also implies that something has changed: the person still lives in Germany and yet he talks of his fluency with the language in the past tense.

    I was fluent after the first year. Now I am fluenter.

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    Smile Re: fluent got gotten

    I agree with you, but the incresed fluency is only implied and not stated, leading to a degree of ambiguity...

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