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    Default Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Police dig up garden of tycoon arrested over murder of wife who vanished nine years ago
    Hi! I think it should be " garden of tycoon's". Am I wrong?

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi! I think it should be " garden of tycoon's". Am I wrong?

    Thank you!
    The garden of tycoon

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Police dig up (the) garden of (the) tycoon arrested over (the) murder of (his) wife who vanished nine years ago.

    I imagine that this is a newspaper headline. They often omit articles etc. to make the text shorter and more "punchy".

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Allow me to add more words for clarity:

    The police dig up (the) garden of (the) tycoon who was arrested over (the) murder of (his) wife who vanished nine years ago.

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Hello All,

    Thank you for your responses! I am sorry that I didn't make my question clear enough.

    Yes, it is a title for a piece of news. But my question is I think there's should be an apostrophe and a "s" behind "tycoon".

    eg1

    a friend of my father's (correct)
    a friend of my father (wrong)


    eg2

    a few classmates of Tom's (correct)
    a few classmates of Tom (wrong)

    Any other suggestions? Thank you!
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 18-Jun-2008 at 16:58. Reason: newspaper->news(typo)

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    No. As indicated, the headline has truncated the grammar.

    It has to be the way it is as "tycoon" is qualified by "arrested over murder": "garden of [the] tycoon [who has been/who was] arrested over..."

    As to the possessive: garden of tycoon = tycoon's garden - but not garden of tycoon's

    The section on the double possessive in this link is worth reading [it is towards the end of the page] : Possessive Forms

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Hi Anglika,

    Thank you very much. I understood the usage of double possessive according to the URL link you recommended. But I don't really understand you about the following explanation.

    garden of tycoon = tycoon's garden - but not garden of tycoon's
    IMO,
    tycoon's garden = the garden of tycoon's
    tycoon's garden =/= the garden of tycoon


    my father's picture = a picture of my father's
    my father's picture=/= the picture of my father (which means the picture bears my father's image)

    Any advice again? Thank you!
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 19-Jun-2008 at 06:07. Reason: understand (grammatical error)

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    thank you anglika

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi Anglika,

    Thank you very much. I understood the usage of double possessive according to the URL link you recommended. But I don't really got you about the following explanation.
    It's one of those curious structures that is really hard to get hold of!

    Generally, what follows the "of" in a double possessive will be definite and human, not otherwise, so we would say "a friend of my uncle's".

    What precedes the "of" is usually indefinite (a friend, not the best friend), unless it's preceded by the demonstratives this or that, as in "this friend of my father's".

    All the following are acceptable sentences.

    The tycoon's garden has been dug up.
    The garden of the tycoon has been dug up.
    That garden of the tycoon's has been dug up.
    A garden of the tycoon's has been dug up

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    Default Re: Grammar Question: garden of tycoon

    Dear Anglika,

    Thank you for shedding the daylight of the UK on me. I think I understood now.

    Have a good one!

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