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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!


    Now, I got it

    Many thanks

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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!

    thanks ......

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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    Certainly if two people grow up speaking the same dialect, they will have the same accent.
    Not necessarily. For example, NZ currently has only one "dialect", but in the southern part of the South Island, there is a distinctive accent. For a long time, it was NZ's only regional accent, and it is an instant marker of where someone's from, even though the vocabulary and grammar are the same as the rest of NZ English. Here's a related article

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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!

    Quote Originally Posted by stuartnz View Post
    Not necessarily. For example, NZ currently has only one "dialect", but in the southern part of the South Island, there is a distinctive accent. For a long time, it was NZ's only regional accent, and it is an instant marker of where someone's from, even though the vocabulary and grammar are the same as the rest of NZ English. Here's a related article
    I think you have slightly misunderstood. Round here we have a dialect. Those who speak that dialect have the same accent. Regional dialects have different accents, so that a Yorkshire accent is different from a Norfolk one, but each region will speak a dialect unique to the region.

    It is not the same thing as the varying accents on standard English forms.

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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    I think you have slightly misunderstood. Round here we have a dialect. Those who speak that dialect have the same accent. Regional dialects have different accents, so that a Yorkshire accent is different from a Norfolk one, but each region will speak a dialect unique to the region.

    It is not the same thing as the varying accents on standard English forms.
    I did not misunderstand. According to the first two definitions of "dialect" in the OED, NZ English, and indeed any other variant can be so described:
    Manner of speaking, language, speech; esp. a manner of speech peculiar to, or characteristic of, a particular person or class

    One of the subordinate forms or varieties of a language arising from local peculiarities of vocabulary, pronunciation, and idiom.
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    I stand by my earlier statement that NZ English is a dialect with more than one accent.

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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!

    Quote Originally Posted by stuartnz View Post
    I did not misunderstand. According to the first two definitions of "dialect" in the OED, NZ English, and indeed any other variant can be so described:
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    I stand by my earlier statement that NZ English is a dialect with more than one accent.
    Not even linguists agree on this nomenclature; some refuse to use the terms language and dialect to define a variety.
    I would call the Southland dialect different from the standard NZ dialect because it also has vocabulary differences, eg. still uses "wee" from Scottish, and perhaps some grammatical differences. Or you could call them two varieties of the same dialect. If you insist that NZE has to be a dialect, and that New Zealand only has one dialect (excluding Maori), then Southland could be a sub-dialect.

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    Re: What is the Difference between Dialect and Accent?!

    Hi, I posted this reply in another thread. I hope it's useful to you.
    Accent is a very distinctive, strong oral

    expression. It is heard when a person speaks,

    and is that person's way of stressing certain

    syllables in speaking. An accent can be

    easily picked up in the way a person will

    place emphasis in a speech pattern. You can

    tell the country a person belongs to by their

    accent, e.g. "Her strong German accent was not

    hard to miss." You can also tell the social

    class a person belongs to by their accent,

    e.g. "Miss Gwyneth spoke in her distinctive,

    highfalutin accent."

    While accent is a person's strong emphasis on

    certain syllables, dialect on the other hand

    can be explained as the way a specific group

    of people use language. Therefore their

    grammar, pronunciation of words, and their

    vocabulary will associate them with a

    particular region or social class. For

    example, the words used in language or

    speaking can be changed, by spelling them or

    pronouncing them differently, so that only

    people from that particular region or class

    will understand it. In my country for

    example, standard english will say" I don't

    like her very much." However, in our dialect

    we might say instead, "I doh like she nah."

    Same meaning, but different grammar and

    pronounciation, and spelling. This type of

    speech however is only used in common, or

    private settings, not public settings. Hope

    this helps.

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