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    Re: Passive Tense Sentence Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    Dawnstorm's post is right. Mine, post #4, is wrong and I have since modified it to reflect the changes.

    1. She had him break her heart. <causative, active>
    2. She had her heart broken. <causative, passive>
    There are two basic causative structures - an active one (ex: "I had Mike fix my computer") and a passive one (ex: "I had my computer fixed"). It is often used with the following verbs: TO HAVE, TO LET, TO MAKE, TO GET, and a few others.

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    Excellent.

    You've also answered a question which I was going to ask in my last post, but decided not to for the sake of brevity.

    It had to do with the difference between (for instance),

    He had me fired - and - He had the mechanic service his car

    The difference being, as you've explained with your own examples, that one's a passive, and the other an active causative construction. Explianed by the fact that in passive constructions, the object is the recipient of the action and in the active, the object is the doer of the action.


    Subject Object
    He had me fired. Passive

    Subject
    Object
    He had the mechanic service his car. Active

    Thus they can easily be rewritten using the object as the subject in non-causative constructions.

    I was fired (passive).

    The mechanic serviced his car (active).


    Phew! I think I've got it. I hope I've got it!

    This thread has been very helpful.

    Many thanks Soup and Dawnstorm.




    Last edited by colloquium; 22-Jun-2008 at 12:36.

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