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    Macquarie, the Australian bank, said Rio was committed to securing a price in excess of the 85-95 per cent the market is expecting. “That stance suggests investors should be prepared for an extended and potentially hostile conclusion to the negotiations,” it said in a report.
    Hi!

    Q1: Does "extended" qualify " conclusion" or "negotiations" in above context?

    According to my grammatical analysis, I think "extended" qualifies "conclusion". But it seems to me it makes more sense if "excluded" qualifies "negotiations".

    Q2: Why did the author use "conclusion" rather than "result"? What's the difference between the two words?

    I think "conclusion" emphasizes something is agreed formally but "result" is just an outcome. Am I right?

    Here's URL link of explanations about "conclusion" from Cambridge Dictionary.

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online

    I look forward to your help. Thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: extended conclusion to negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi!

    According to my grammatical analysis, I think "extended" qualifies "conclusion". But it seems to me it makes more sense if "excluded" qualifies "negotiations".
    Hi, thedaffodils.
    I agree with you.
    Let's wait for native speakers to respond.

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    Default Re: extended conclusion to negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi!

    Q1: Does "extended" qualify " conclusion" or "negotiations" in above context?

    According to my grammatical analysis, I think "extended" qualifies "conclusion". But it seems to me it makes more sense if "excluded" qualifies "negotiations".

    Q2: Why did the author use "conclusion" rather than "result"? What's the difference between the two words?

    I think "conclusion" emphasizes something is agreed formally but "result" is just an outcome. Am I right?

    Here's URL link of explanations about "conclusion" from Cambridge Dictionary.

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online

    I look forward to your help. Thanks in advance.
    Oh, as for "conclusion" vs "result"...

    a.the conclusion to the negotiations
    b.the result of the negotiations

    I think these two are different in meanings. What do you think?

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    Hi tzfujimino,

    Thank you for your help.

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    Default Re: extended conclusion to negotiations

    Could anyone else answer the two questions above? Thank you!

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    Default Re: extended conclusion to negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi!

    Q1: Does "extended" qualify " conclusion" or "negotiations" in above context?

    According to my grammatical analysis, I think "extended" qualifies "conclusion". But it seems to me it makes more sense if "excluded" qualifies "negotiations". It qualifies conclusion -

    Q2: Why did the author use "conclusion" rather than "result"? What's the difference between the two words?

    I think "conclusion" emphasizes something is agreed formally but "result" is just an outcome. Am I right? In this context, I suggest that it is because there has been a long negotiation that has now been concluded. It is #3 in the Cambridge Dictionary. The result of the negotiations is the purchase at the finally agreed price.

    Here's URL link of explanations about "conclusion" from Cambridge Dictionary.

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online

    I look forward to your help. Thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: extended conclusion to negotiations

    Hi Anglika,

    Thank you very much. Question 2 is settled. But I am not very clear about Question 1.

    That stance suggests investors should be prepared for an extended and potentially hostile conclusion to the negotiations
    Obliviously, "hostile" qualifies "conclusion". And "extended" juxtaposes "hostile", I am wondering why you said "extended" qualifies negotiation.

    Could you please explain further? Thank you.
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 26-Jun-2008 at 04:40. Reason: juxapose with-->juxapose

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    Macquarie, the Australian bank, said Rio was committed to securing a price in excess of the 85-95 per cent the market is expecting. “That stance suggests investors should be prepared for an extended and potentially hostile conclusion to the negotiations,” it said in a report.
    Hi!

    Q1: Does "extended" qualify " conclusion" or "negotiations" in above context? According to my grammatical analysis, I think "extended" qualifies "conclusion". But it seems to me it makes more sense if "excluded" qualifies "negotiations".


    You are quite right. As it is written, it qualifies 'conclusion' but that is not what the writer intended. With punctuation, it might read a little better:
    “That stance suggests investors should be prepared for extended (and a potentially hostile conclusion to) negotiations,”
    Or perhaps commas instead of the brackets.
    The meaning of the paragraph is, Rio is determined to get the price they want. This will mean that negotiations will take some time - 'extended' - as they argue and wrangle with the other side; and when they finally conclude these negotiations, don't expect them to be all palsy-walsy (very friendly toward each other). These negotiations are going to be tough and fierce, and each side is going to walk away from the conference table feeling hostile towards the other: Rio because they probably won't get quite the price they are demanding; and the other side, because Rio is making 'outrageous demands" are 'unreasonable' and 'exploitive'. (How I imagine each side would talk about the other. )

    Q2: Why did the author use "conclusion" rather than "result"? What's the difference between the two words?
    I think "conclusion" emphasizes something is agreed formally but "result" is just an outcome. Am I right?


    'conclusion' here is used with its meaning of 'end' or 'finish'. When the negotiations 'come to an end', are 'all over'.

    It also has the meaning of 'a judgment or decision reached by reasoning'.
    A person weighs up facts, the evidence, and draws some conclusion; he makes a judgment as to what it all means. He reasons it out and comes to a decision.
    In the negotiations we are talking about, the writer is referring to the 'outcome' of the negotiations, hence, the 'result'.
    Last edited by David L.; 26-Jun-2008 at 16:19.

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    Default Re: extended conclusion to negotiations

    Hello David L.,

    Thank you very much for answering my questions.

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