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    Forty in American English

    Do AMericans pronounce " forty" as fordi or forti?
    Mr= Mider or mister?

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    Re: Forty in American English

    Both, actually: for[D]y and for[t]y; mis[t]er, mis[D]er

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    Re: Forty in American English

    So when to use which?>

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    Re: Forty in American English

    from my previous knowledge, this highly depends on regional variation of accents in phonolog (pronunciation).


    you could have a quick look at the underneath url,
    http://www.englishforums.com/English...ggjcd/post.htm
    and concern more with the second reply
    Last edited by up4ever; 28-Jun-2008 at 09:25.

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    Re: Forty in American English

    But American Accent Course (Ann Cook) says: The soft T is pronounced like a d, so why mister here?
    Is the same true with doctor?

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    Re: Forty in American English

    Forty is either /fɔrti/ or /fɔ:ti/ (for non-rhotic speakers), or /forɾi/, where ɾ is an alveolar tap similar to [d].
    "Mister" is
    /mɪstə/, /mɪstər/, /mɪsɾə/, / mɪsɾər/
    You should say / /f
    ɔ:ti/ and /mɪstə/ unless you are very keen to adopt the American [r] sounds.

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    Re: Forty in American English

    Quote Originally Posted by belly_ttt View Post
    But American Accent Course (Ann Cook) says: The soft T is pronounced like a d, so why mister here?
    Is the same true with doctor?
    Yes. Note that <t> occurs phonetically before a [r] and [i:], both of which are voiced and vocalic. In other words, they act like vowels, as syllabic elements:
    mis'ter / mis'[dr]
    doc'tor / doc'[dr]
    for'ty / for'[di:]


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