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    I told you so!

    Just wondering.
    How do you understand the difference between:
    'I said to him...'
    'I told him...'


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    Re: I told you so!

    I think told is something imperative and more like a criticism, something that requires an action/ response while said is just more polite or soft.

    ĎHavenít I told you to bring me the report first thing in the morning?í
    ĎI would like to say to you that the report in on your desk.í

    But Iím not sure because tell seems fine in the second sentence, too.


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    Re: I told you so!

    I think they have same meaning, but different in using:
    - "Said" always go with "to'
    - "Told" + object
    Is that right?


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    Re: I told you so!

    You are right in that it is ' I said to him" /'I told him"
    but I could also write:
    It was told to him (by a very wise old man).

    I was really thinking of the difference in meaning between when you would use 'said' and when to use 'told' ...or are they completely interchangeable?

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    Smile Re: I told you so!

    'I said to him...' is narrative.
    'I told him...' implies subtle demand.



    Right? If not, what is the key? Thanks!

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    Smile Re: I told you so!

    Tell focuses on giving information. eg Please tell me your name.
    Say focuses on the act of speaking, eg Please say that again because I didn't hear what you said.
    I searched a key from the Internet. Is it your focus?

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    Re: I told you so!

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post


    I searched a key from the Internet. Is it your focus?
    I don't have time for the moment to follow your link, but there is another difference. "Tell" can take not only an object ('tell a lie") but what used to be called a 'factitive' - an object that doesn't exist until the verb happens ('tell a story').

    But there are exceptions both ways. The word 'say' is related to the Norse-borrowing saga, and in some literary contexts you will find 'say a story' (which is wrong in current standard English) and 'say a truth' which is on the borderline of acceptability. And the exceptional 'say the rosary' (in which "say" does have an object, as in "say a prayer") occurs in some texts as 'tell his/her beads" - in which no one is telling the beads anything (in the modern sense).

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    Smile Re: I told you so!

    Hi BobK,

    Thank you for your explanation.

    But David L. has made the confines of "I said to him'' and "I told him". What is the difference between them?

    Could you, David L., or someone else answer it at your convenience?

    Have a good day!



    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    Just wondering.
    How do you understand the difference between:
    'I said to him...'
    'I told him...'

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    Re: I told you so!

    I think I'm stupid

    because I thought there was no difference

    but after reading people reply s got it kind of

    many thanks for this information guys

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