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    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is right?

    It's he who stole the apples. - or - It's him who stole the apples.

    It's we who have done it. - or - It's us who have done it.

    It's I who have it. - or - It's me who has done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Nutty View Post
    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is right?

    It's he who stole the apples. - or - It's him who stole the apples.

    It's we who have done it. - or - It's us who have done it.

    It's I who have it. - or - It's me who has done it.
    All are fine.
    "Him, us and me" are used in speech more often if not mostly by natives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banderas View Post
    All are fine.
    "Him, us and me" are used in speech more often if not mostly by natives.
    Are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Nutty View Post
    Are they?
    Yes, they are. Let's await their confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Nutty View Post
    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is right?

    It's he who stole the apples. - or - It's him who stole the apples.

    It's we who have done it. - or - It's us who have done it.

    It's I who have it. - or - It's me who has done it.
    Certainly natives say "It's him" or "It's us" or "It's me" as a complete thought.

    I cannot imagine saying "It's us who have done it," nor "It's me who has done it."

    I would say "It was us" or "We are the one who did it."

    He is the one who stole the apples, I am the one who did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Nutty View Post
    Hi,

    Can someone please tell me which one is right?

    It's he who stole the apples. - or - It's him who stole the apples.

    It's we who have done it. - or - It's us who have done it.

    It's I who have it. - or - It's me who has done it.
    From The (Boston) MBA Center GMAT Course
    'Be' is not a transitive verb, but a linking verb. A pronoun after 'is' or 'was' is not a direct object but a complement. Use the subject pronouns after 'is' and 'was'.

    INCORRECT: It is him who must decide.
    CORRECT: It is he who must decide.

    INCORRECT: It was them who won the competition.
    CORRECT: It was they who won the competition.

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    The newscaster's “Baker acknowledged that it was him who sent the anonymous note,” shows the common problem of using an objective pronoun after some form of “to be” — is, are, was, were, been. The preferred practice is to follow a “be” verb with a subjective pronoun: This is she. Was it he? It is he who should apologize. If that seems over-fastidious, we can always use a proper noun rather than a pronoun: This is Mary. Was it John? It is Frank who should apologize.

    Some experts say it's high time we accepted such structures as it is me, that’s her, it’s him. I don’t disagree, especially in speech, but the problem is our audience. Many see those constructions as wrong and — worse — ignorant. That perception is hazardous to any communicator but especially in writing, even in such “informal” workplace communication as e-mail, which is often printed and distributed to others. A mistake in writing is a mistake in a possibly permanent record — in which the real or perceived error remains to offend again and again. Our message is damaged when the reader gets caught up in form rather than content.

    The best solution to such problems is to use neither a construction that might be seen as ungrammatical nor one that might be seen as stiff or stuffy. We can always write around the problem. In the “Baker” sentence above, for example, the writer could have deleted “it was he” and said simply: “Baker acknowledged that he sent the anonymous note.” Both in speech and in writing, such choices are easy, quick, and correct.

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    Kedrika Communications Tips and Tactics
    The Book on Writing: The Ultimate ... - Google Book Search

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Certainly natives say "It's him" or "It's us" or "It's me" as a complete thought.

    I cannot imagine saying "It's us who have done it," nor "It's me who has done it."

    I would say "It was us" or "We are the ones who did it."

    He is the one who stole the apples, I am the one who did it.
    am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    am I right?
    Yes

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    Hello Soup,

    Thanks so much for your help.

    Is it wrong to say "It's me." then? I have heard a lot of people say this, especially the Americans. For example, Hi, It's me, Spincer.

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    And thanks to others too for their such helpful responses.

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