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    Default difference between sentences

    if the temperature in the Brazilian ash's environment never exceeds 95 degrees Fahrenheit will its rings be a reliable measure of the tree's age.

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    So only if the temperature in the Brazilian ash's environment never exceeds 95 degrees Fahrenheit its rings will be a reliable measure of the tree's age.



    what is the diff? also at various occasions i had seen sentences where will coming before pronouns.. will he, do i etc., and all these occasions are not asking any questions rather they are affirming stances.. pls explain:)

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    Default Re: difference between sentences

    Quote Originally Posted by kiranlegend View Post
    if the temperature in the Brazilian ash's environment never exceeds 95 degrees Fahrenheit will its rings be a reliable measure of the tree's age.

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    So only if the temperature in the Brazilian ash's environment never exceeds 95 degrees Fahrenheit its rings will be a reliable measure of the tree's age.



    what is the diff? also at various occasions i had seen sentences where will coming before pronouns.. will he, do i etc., and all these occasions are not asking any questions rather they are affirming stances.. pls explain:)
    There's something missing from the start of your first sentence - probably "Only".
    The sentence, I think, should read:
    "Only if the temperature in the Brazilian ash's environment never exceeds 95 degrees Fahrenheit will its rings be a reliable measure of the tree's age."
    The second sentence is wrong because in this type of construction, you have to invert the subject and verb.
    "I'll only marry you if you lose weight" = "Only if you lose weight will I marry you"




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    Default Re: difference between sentences

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    There's something missing from the start of your first sentence - probably "Only".
    The sentence, I think, should read:
    "Only if the temperature in the Brazilian ash's environment never exceeds 95 degrees Fahrenheit will its rings be a reliable measure of the tree's age."
    The second sentence is wrong because in this type of construction, you have to invert the subject and verb.
    "I'll only marry you if you lose weight" = "Only if you lose weight will I marry you"



    @ Raymott

    thanks so much mate!:)

    hmm... i could understand to some extent as to where the usage of verb preceded noun/pronoun.. however, can someone please elaborate more examples?? i mean few more sentences where subject and verb are inverted will be of great help.:) basically i want to clearly understand at all the instances where subjet and verb are inverted

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    is the sentence '
    I never practised or aimed to become
    an artist neither have i ever mentioned that i wanted to become one either' correct?

    again here subject and verb are inverted guys, this thing is making me go nuts uh! kindly anyone address the usage of inverted subject and verb in sentences?

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    Default Re: difference between sentences

    Quote Originally Posted by kiranlegend View Post
    is the sentence '
    I never practised or aimed to become
    an artist neither have i ever mentioned that i wanted to become one either' correct?

    again here subject and verb are inverted guys, this thing is making me go nuts uh! kindly anyone address the usage of inverted subject and verb in sentences?
    "Neither have I ever mentioned that I wanted to become one." is correct.
    Sorry, I don't have any rules for this at the moment. Maybe someone else can help.

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    Default Re: difference between sentences

    Changing the word order is called inversion.

    Here's one description: Inversion - grammar - central - British Council - LearnEnglish

    Negative and restrictive adverbs
    In formal English, it is quite common to use inversion after negative adverbial expressions and restrictive words such as only, never, hardly and little.
    At no time did he get permission for what he was doing. Not until the next morning did she realise how serious it was. Only later did they learn his terrible secret. Never before have I seen such awful behaviour. Hardly had we walked in the door when the phone started ringing. Little do you know how much trouble you are in

    If you google grammar inversion, you'll get lots of hits.

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    i could have googled it..

    anyway thanks mate! if you were a female, i would have asked you to marry me


    am starting to love this forum
    Last edited by kiranlegend; 17-Jul-2008 at 16:47.

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    Default Re: difference between sentences

    Well, I am female, but kind as your offer is, I think my husband may object to taking on a new husband!

    Another online source I like a lot is the online writing lab at Purdue. There is a TON of good stuff there. Although I didn't find good information on inversion at that site, it's the first place I look when I'm not sure how to explain what my instincts tell me is the right answer.

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    oh really! lucky he

    thanks mate for that info. i anticipate it to be really helpful!

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    Default Re: difference between sentences

    Hi,
    What does "ash's environment" mean, please?
    Thanks.

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