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    Hello

    When I'd like to ask about the agent of passive voice, can I use both sentences?
    Or is "By whome " not used in daily life?

    For example:
    1) By whom was the cake eaten?
    2 Who was the cake eaten by?

    Thank you. :)

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    Default Re: a question of passive voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lina
    Hello

    When I'd like to ask about the agent of passive voice, can I use both sentences?
    Or is "By whome " not used in daily life?

    For example:
    1) By whom was the cake eaten?
    2 Who was the cake eaten by?

    Thank you. :)

    I would simply expect to hear, "Who ate the cake?"

    Passive voice would most likely not be used here in my opinion. It's really not necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina
    Hello
    When I'd like to ask about the agent of passive voice, can I use both sentences? Or is "By whom" not used in daily life?

    For example:
    1) By whom was the cake eaten?
    2 Who was the cake eaten by?

    Thank you. :)
    I agree with X Mode. :D

    The function of the passive is to take focus off the agent, the doer of the action, and emphasize the object. Though, in our example sentence the agent is emphasized:

    Passive: Whom was the cake eaten by? (Agent)
    Passive: Who was the cake eaten by? (Agent)

    There's no need to use the passive to emphasize the agent. Active works best, as X Mode suggests:

    Active: Who ate the cake?

    By the way, 'by' is a preposition so its object should be 'whom', but some speakers will use 'who':

    Passive: The cake was eaten by whom?
    Passive: The cake was eaten by who?

    All the best, :D

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    Default Re: a question of passive voice

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by Lina
    Hello
    When I'd like to ask about the agent of passive voice, can I use both sentences? Or is "By whom" not used in daily life?

    For example:
    1) By whom was the cake eaten?
    2 Who was the cake eaten by?

    Thank you. :)
    I agree with X Mode. :D

    The function of the passive is to take focus off the agent, the doer of the action, and emphasize the object. Though, in our example sentence the agent is emphasized:

    Passive: Whom was the cake eaten by? (Agent)
    Passive: Who was the cake eaten by? (Agent)

    There's no need to use the passive to emphasize the agent. Active works best, as X Mode suggests:

    Active: Who ate the cake?

    By the way, 'by' is a preposition so its object should be 'whom', but some speakers will use 'who':

    Passive: The cake was eaten by whom?
    Passive: The cake was eaten by who?

    All the best, :D

    I think many speakers will use "who". I'm one of them.


    8) :D :D

    But as I said, I wouldn't use passive voice here anyway. So that settles that for me.

    :D :) :D

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    I have seen this one. Thanks, Cas and X mode. :D

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    You're welcome. :D

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