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    Smile Hyde Park hauteur =?

    In this political version of “Pride and Prejudice,” the prejudice is racial, with only 31 percent of white voters telling The New York Times in a survey that they had a favorable opinion of Obama, compared with 83 percent of blacks.

    And the prejudice is visceral: many Americans, especially blue collar, still feel uneasy about the Senate’s exotic shooting star, and he is surrounded by a miasma of ill-founded and mistaken premises.
    So the novelistic tension of the 2008 race is this: Can Obama overcome his pride and Hyde Park hauteur and win America over?
    Could someone please tell me what Hyde Park hauteur refers to?

    I knew Hyde Park location in London. Is it about the classic novel 'Pride and Prejudice'? I just dipped a few chapters of it but had no any impression about Hyde Park.

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: Hyde Park hauteur =?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Could someone please tell me what Hyde Park hauteur refers to?

    I knew Hyde Park location in London. Is it about the classic novel 'Pride and Prejudice'? I just dipped a few chapters of it but had no any impression about Hyde Park.

    Thank you!
    Hyde Park is one of the most prestigious parks in London. (Did Obama speak here? I don't remember). It's close to Buckingham Palace and Westminster.
    "Hauteur" means "highness, haughtiness".
    Basically, he is being compared to the British Royalty, or at least the Upper Classes; it suggests he has an air of entitlement (and implicitly, entitlement to the presidency of US). Furthermore, it suggests that he is all Pomp and Glory, all show with little substance.

    (no disrespect meant to her Majesty, of course)

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    Smile Re: Hyde Park hauteur =?

    Hi Raymott,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I forgot to say the paragraph is an excerpt from a Columnist's article titled Mr. Darcy Comes Courting in New York Times.

    The authoress compared Obama to Darcy, who was the hero of the classic novel -Pride and Prejudice, and America to Elizabeth Bennet, the heroine of that. I think all you Westerners knew the story well.

    Here's the URL link about the article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/op...on&oref=slogin

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    Default Re: Hyde Park hauteur =?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Could someone please tell me what Hyde Park hauteur refers to?

    I knew Hyde Park location in London. Is it about the classic novel 'Pride and Prejudice'? I just dipped a few chapters of it but had no any impression about Hyde Park.

    Thank you!
    hauteur...arrogance, superiority, overabundance of pride in oneself

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    hauteur...arrogance, superiority, overabundance of pride in oneself
    2006, thank you for your reply.

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    Default Re: Hyde Park hauteur =?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi Raymott,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I forgot to say the paragraph is an excerpt from a Columnist's article titled Mr. Darcy Comes Courting in New York Times.

    The authoress compared Obama to Darcy, who was the hero of the classic novel -Pride and Prejudice, and America to Elizabeth Bennet, the heroine of that. I think all you Westerners knew the story well.

    Here's the URL link about the article.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/op...on&oref=slogin

    Thanks. I think the comparison is overstated, but I haven't read that novel for maybe 30 years.
    No, most Westerners would have heard of "Pride and Prejudice", probably from various dramatisations on TV. Comparatively few will admit to actually having read it, if they're honest.
    In any case, if Darcy had a "Hyde Park hauteur", it would probably mean a similar thing (except that Darcy wasn't running for President, if I recall correctly).

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    It's not a term I would connect with Austen, who was not particularly impressed by London society, and whose characters are not in high society on the whole.


    The term to me means "a sense of superiority", which is what Obama can project - probably quite unintentionally.

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    Default Re: Hyde Park hauteur =?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    It's not a term I would connect with Austen, who was not particularly impressed by London society, and whose characters are not in high society on the whole.


    The term to me means "a sense of superiority", which is what Obama can project - probably quite unintentionally.
    I don't think Austen mentioned 'Hyde Park' directly; in fact it may not even have been called that in her day. But I have a feeling she mentioned Rotten Row - which is in what is now Hyde Park. It's where the gentry went riding when they were In Town. I have a feeling an Austen heroine accidentally met someone there. But not Elizabeth, I think. Darcy didn't do much riding, if I remember. He spent most of his time in London hunting for Wickham and arranging the wedding.

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    PS It was called that at the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park%2C_London
    Last edited by BobK; 03-Aug-2008 at 19:38. Reason: Added PS

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    Default Re: Hyde Park hauteur =?

    Raymott, Anglika and BobK, thank you for your answers.
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 04-Aug-2008 at 04:17.

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