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    Smile Re: "children ages 6 to 18"?

    Sorry for chiming in. I am not a teacher.

    His research found that children ages 6 to 18 contribute 12 percent of all household labor.
    Children aged 6, 7, 8.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    Consider,

    Ex: children between the ages (of) 6 and 18
    In this example, I think it refers to the children aged 6 and 8 only but not the children aged 7.

    I look forward to learning your comments. Thank you!

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    #12

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    Could someone please respond to Post 11 of mine in this thread? This is the question I had been going to ask.

    Thanks in advance!


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    #13

    Re: "children ages 6 to 18"?

    His research found that children ages 6 to 18 contribute 12 percent of all household labor.
    Children aged 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanV View Post
    Children aged 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18.
    Hello IvanV,

    Sorry, I misread '18' to '8'.

    And what about below sentence?

    Ex: children between the ages (of) 6 and 18
    6-year-old
    18-year-old

    (exclude the range within them, that is 7,8,9...17 years old children who are all excluded) Right?


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    #15

    Re: "children ages 6 to 18"?

    I would read "between" as meaning all the ages from x through to y.

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    #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    I would read "between" as meaning all the ages from x through to y.
    Hi Anglika,

    Thank you for your response.

    That sentence is of ambiguity, isn't it? From the context, I can judge that refers to all ages which are limited.

    If without any context, the structure is "beween...and...", I have to judge that it refers to just 2 ages. My former teacher told us "between" ususally is applied to refer to two persons/items/groups, etc.

    If "and" is replaced with "to", I think it makes more sense. eg. The kids aged between 7 to 18. Or how do I say, if I just want to refer to the two ages--7, 18.

    Actually, I think 'between' is an ambiguous word here, even grammatically wrong. Why don't we say:

    1) children aged 7 to 18

    2) chlidren ranged from 7 to 18

    I'd like to learn more about your opinion on this. Thanks in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Hi Anglika,

    Thank you for your response.

    That sentence is of ambiguity, isn't it? From the context, I can judge that refers to all ages which are limited.

    If without any context, the structure is "beween...and...", I have to judge that it refers to just 2 ages. My former teacher told us "between" ususally is applied to refer to two persons/items/groups, etc.
    It is used to state "among two or more people or things". So in the sentence it is correctly used to say that all ages are to be considered within the age range cited.

    If "and" is replaced with "to", I think it makes more sense. eg. The kids aged between 7 to 18. Or how do I say, if I just want to refer to the two ages--7, 18.
    If you want to change "and" to "to", then you have also to change "between" to "from": "The children aged from 7 to 18 years old". You cannot collocate "between" and "to". If you want to refer to only the two ages, then you would say"The children aged 7 years and 18 years"
    Actually, I think 'between' is an ambiguous word here, even grammatically wrong. Why don't we say:

    1) children aged 7 to 18 You can say it this way.

    2) chlidren ranged from 7 to 18 "children of ages ranging from 7 to 18".
    Both of these do indicate that all ages from 7 through to 18 are to be taken into account.
    I'd like to learn more about your opinion on this. Thanks in advance.

    Hope this is making it a little clearer

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    #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    Hope this is making it a little clearer
    Dear Anglika,

    You're very helpful. I'm clear except for the following question.

    If my memory serves me right, our teacher taught us the difference between 'among' and 'between' as below.

    #1 She is tallest among the three girls.

    #2 She is tallest between the three girls.

    Since 'between' can be applied to more than 2 people or things, I am wondering whether my teacher was wrong or not. Thank you!


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    #19

    Re: "children ages 6 to 18"?

    Your teacher was right.

    However, there are exceptions where between is preferable:

    -when speaking about a relationship involving two or more parties:
    A contest between Britain, Germany and France.
    -when describing the position of something:
    The house lies between the highway, the river and the railway.


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    #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanV View Post
    Your teacher was right.

    However, there are exceptions where between is preferable:

    -when speaking about a relationship involving two or more parties:
    A contest between Britain, Germany and France.
    -when describing the position of something:
    The house lies between the highway, the river and the railway.


    I.
    Hello IvanV,

    Thank you for your reply. My teacher mentioned and explained this too.

    # 1 China is located between Mongolia, North Korea and Vietnam.

    Explain: China borders these three countries respectively.

    China borders Mongolia;

    China borders North Korea;

    China borders Vietnam.

    # 2 China is located among Mongolia, North Korea and Vietnam.

    *********************
    # 3 a contest between Britain, Germany and France, which focuses the relationship as below.

    a contest between Britain and Germany;

    a contest between Britain and France;

    a contest between Germany and France.

    Thus, 'between' focuses on the relationship of each of two persons and things, though it is applied to more than 2 of that.


    If any suggestion, please let me know. Thank you!

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