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    Default Re: is this text ok?

    The question about "yet" is very interesting but could some one help me?
    Could I say "Tell her she must let you know when she does."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    I didn't do anything yet.
    I haven't done anything yet.

    I can't believe the lst sentence is correct, 2006.

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    Looks like an old argument between BrE and AmE.

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    Clark, I'm not familiar with the old argument. Can you elaborate?

    I'm an American, and I would NOT say "She didn't do it yet." I'd say "She hasn't done it yet." Yet obviously shows a connection to the present, and that makes the present perfect the better choice. Simple past means the action was not done, without a connection to present.

    Sure I can easily imagine saying "Well, I didn't do it... yet," using "yet" to mean "but I will!" But that's not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Clark, I'm not familiar with the old argument. Can you elaborate?

    I'm an American, and I would NOT say "She didn't do it yet." I'd say "She hasn't done it yet." Yet obviously shows a connection to the present, and that makes the present perfect the better choice. Simple past means the action was not done, without a connection to present.

    Sure I can easily imagine saying "Well, I didn't do it... yet," using "yet" to mean "but I will!" But that's not the same thing.
    I thought it was like "Have you read the book?" (more BrE) vs. "Did you read the book?" (more AmE). It's no secret that Americans use past simple in contexts where Britons would normally use present perfect. So when I saw 2006 write that he didn't see a problem in using "yet" in a sentence with past simple, I thought it was one of such situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Clark, I'm not familiar with the old argument. Can you elaborate? 'He' means that Br. speakers are a lot fonder of perfect tense than N. American speakers are, and they often say that perfect tense is the only right way.

    I'm an American, and I would NOT say "She didn't do it yet." I'd say "She hasn't done it yet." Yet obviously shows a connection to the present, and that makes the present perfect the better choice. Why do you say that? Maybe because you prefer to use it, perfect sounds right to you. Simple past means the action was not done, without a connection to present. But you just said that "yet" shows a connection to the present, and the simple past sentence also has "yet".

    Maybe we're just at a stalemate.

    Sure I can easily imagine saying "Well, I didn't do it... yet," using "yet" to mean "but I will!" "yet" with both tenses suggests "I will" . But that's not the same thing.
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    Last edited by 2006; 10-Aug-2008 at 06:51. Reason: to note that I completed my post before I saw Clark's answer

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    She hasn't left/didn't leave the Pendrive with the doorman yet. Tell her to inform you when she does, please.
    Hi Jctgf
    it seems you are excellent at grammar.
    I think (She hasn't left the pendrive with the doorman yet) is correct because using yet grammaticlly with present perfect to indicate an actions that is not completed and will be completed in the futrure. So, hasn't is better and more accurate than did'n't

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    very useful..
    thanks..

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    Default Re: is this text ok?

    I'm aware that of the assertion that BrE uses PP more often than AmE, but to be honest, in most discussions I've seen on ESL boards, in almost all the examples, I'd use PP too.

    Clark's comment confused me because I'm American and I was advocating for the PP.

    I certainly would use PP with "yet." Whatever. 2006 can use simple past, I can use PP.

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    She hasn't left/didn't leave the Pendrive with the doorman yet. Tell her to inform you when she does, please.

    You have to use the present perfect with yet

    because the past simple ( did / didn't )is only used for finished actions.


    so the correct version is:

    She hasn't left the Pendrive with the doorman yet. Tell her to inform you when she does, please.

    The second sentence uses the present simple and is perfectly ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the concierge View Post
    She hasn't left/didn't leave the Pendrive with the doorman yet. Tell her to inform you when she does, please.

    You have to use the present perfect with yet Really? No one has given an explanation of why simple past is 'wrong'. because the past simple ( did / didn't )is only used for finished actions. maybe only in Br. English
    Anyway, I hope I have nothing more to say on this thread.

    so the correct version is:

    She hasn't left the Pendrive with the doorman yet. Tell her to inform you when she does, please.

    The second sentence uses the present simple and is perfectly ok.
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