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    Smile Who wants to say grace?

    Context:

    The Simpsons invited a guest- Krusty to have dinner with them.

    Before the dinner, Mrs. Simpson asked, " Who want to say grace"?

    Her son, Bart responed, "Let the guest do it. Krusty, do the honors".

    Questions:

    Q1: Don't all people say grace before dinner at the same time in a family which believes in God? Why did Mrs Simpson ask so?

    Q2: And is it usually 'guest' who say grace before the dinner?

    Q3: do the honors=?


    Thanks in advance!
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    Default re: Who wants to say grace?

    Q1: Don't all people say grace before dinner at the same time in a family which believe God? Why did Mrs Simpson ask so?
    Usually one person says grace and the others say "Amen" when he/she has finished saying it.

    Q2: And is it usually 'guest' who say grace before the dinner?
    Not always, but it can be.

    Q3: do the honors= ?
    Say Grace. (in this context).

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    Smile re: Who wants to say grace?

    Hi Bhaisahab,

    Thank you very much!

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    Default re: Who wants to say grace?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Context:

    The Simpsons invited a guest- Krusty to have dinner with them.
    ...
    I don't watch the Simpsons, so don't know who/what Krusty is. It seems possible that

    a) Marge is showing off for the benefit of her guest [and the Simpsons don't usually say grace]
    b) Bart is mischievously inviting the guest to say grace, because he knows Krusty has never said grace in his life

    b

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    Default re: Who wants to say grace?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    I don't watch the Simpsons, so don't know who/what Krusty is. It seems possible that

    a) Marge is showing off for the benefit of her guest [and the Simpsons don't usually say grace]
    b) Bart is mischievously inviting the guest to say grace, because he knows Krusty has never said grace in his life

    b
    Marge wouldn't show off, but Bart sure would.

    Krusty is a clown.


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    Smile Re: Who wants to say grace?

    BobK & RonBee,

    Thank you for your responses.

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    Smile Re: Who wants to say grace?

    Another questions:

    • I am a non-believer, if the Simpsons invited me to dine with them, What should I do when they said grace? I think I should just sit there quitely and wait for they finish. Right?
    • If I invited the Simpons to dine with me, and I knew they were believers, should I ask whether they want to say grace before we dine?
    • If I were a Christian, and I dined with my friends who are non-believers. Could I ask them let me say grace before I ate? How to pose my request about it politely in English?
    Thanks!
    Last edited by thedaffodils; 19-Aug-2008 at 17:02. Reason: I ain't a non...--> I am a non...

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    Default Re: Who wants to say grace?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Another questions:

    • I ain't a non-believer, if the Simpsons invited me to dine with them, What should I do when they said grace? I think I should just sit there quitely and wait for they finish. Right?
    • If I invited the Simpons to dine with me, and I knew they were believers, should I ask whether they want to say grace before we dine?
    • If I were a Christian, and I dined with my friends who are non-believers. Could I ask them let me say grace before I ate? How to pose my request about it politely in English?

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    1. Goodness daffodils! Where did you pick up "ain't" from? In any case, I think you mean "I am a non-believer". But yes, that's what you should do.
    2. No, if you invite them into your home, they should leave their God at the door (for most purposes). If they want to say grace silently to themselves, they may.
    3. You should do so silently to yourself, unless you want to make religion an issue.
    This is the opinion of an agnostic. Christians (or other theists) might suggest otherwise. Personally, while I respect other people's religions, I don't like having them thrust upon me (and would possibly object to it in my own house). But there's no strict rule about this - culture is changing so quickly.

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    Smile Re: Who wants to say grace?

    Hi Raymott,

    Thank you very much for your help. I've understood.

    1. Goodness daffodils! Where did you pick up "ain't" from? In any case, I think you mean "I am a non-believer". But yes, that's what you should do.
    Yes, I referred to I am a non-believer. Sorry, it is a typo.

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    Default Re: Who wants to say grace?

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Another questions:

    • ... I think I should just sit there quietly and wait for the[m to] finish. Right?
    • If I invited the Simpons to dine with me, and I knew they were believers, should I ask whether they want to say grace before we dine? As Raymott said, they shouldn't expect you to. If you're feeling very hospitable, you could say 'Are we ready?' and give them a short few moments for them to do whatever they feel is appropriate - silently, it is to be hoped.
    • If I were a Christian, and I dined with my friends who are non-believers. Could I ask them to let me say grace before I ate? How to pose my request about it politely in English? As Raymott said, it shouldn't be necessary. At my brother's boarding school they said a very short grace: Benedictus benedicat. (May the Blessed One bless [this]). A believer could 'say' this mentally in a moment.
    Thanks!
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    Last edited by BobK; 19-Aug-2008 at 18:46. Reason: Tweaked format - same words!

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