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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    Unfortunately my Thai is nowhere near good enough to make effective comparisons. The languages are radically different so I don't think it would be a goer even if my Thai was better.

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    Yes, it would probably be a big risk. But I do think it's quite likely that there's some 'L1 interference' behind this issue.

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    I should probably qualify the problem in a specific Thai context a bit more. Initially the problem is to get Thais to use the "to" at all. They say things like "I go market", "I go hospital" etc. Then when you get them to start using "to" you have to tell them that you don't use "to" to talk about when they "go home".

    You can see the look of confusion and "but you said" on their faces. The thing is I just can't think of why there is an apparent exception here.

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiep View Post
    I should probably qualify the problem in a specific Thai context a bit more. Initially the problem is to get Thais to use the "to" at all. They say things like "I go market", "I go hospital" etc. Then when you get them to start using "to" you have to tell them that you don't use "to" to talk about when they "go home".

    You can see the look of confusion and "but you said" on their faces. The thing is I just can't think of why there is an apparent exception here.
    If they have trouble in understanding exceptions to rules, maybe it would be useful to point out a few rule exceptions in Thai (if there are any). Then ask them to explain "why?" This will at least help them understand the concept that the language comes first, and the rules are inferred from the language - not the other around.

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    Maybe you should explain that "home" is an indefinite concept whereas "house" is definite so "I am going to my house." would be correct.

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    Quote Originally Posted by wace View Post
    My guess is that 'home' in the phrase 'go home' takes on an adverbial value, rather like saying 'to go south'. You couldn't possibly say 'to go to south', could you?
    Sorry to barge in...
    I'd agree with wace, who has pointed out that " 'go home' takes on an adverbial value."

    Please allow me to take three adverbs ('abroad', 'here' and 'there') for examples.

    go abroad (NOT go to abroad)
    come here (NOT come to here)
    stay there (NOT stay at there....however, I've heard 'stay in there'...)

    I understand that...prepositions do not precede adverbs.(They do not go together, with some exceptions such as....'Are you in there?'

    So...'home', as in 'go home', is used as an adverb, I guess.
    But...if...'home' is used as a noun, it might be probably...grammatically OK to say...'go to his home' or 'stay at her home.' Am I correct in saying this?

    I'm not a native speaker of English, so if there's any mistake above...
    please correct me....and forgive me...

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    I think you've just hit the nail on the head, tzfujimino.

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    I'd got there first! Ah!
    Just kidding!

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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    I think that this is way to complicated to try and explain to the students at my school, with a few exceptions, but at least it's a bit clearer in my head!

    Thanks to all who chipped in.


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    Default Re: Why not "go to home"?

    And have you tried making huge posters on right: go to ...(and couple of examples),
    on left: go home, go south, go abroad ?
    Maybe they will get it intuitively?

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