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    Lightbulb considering collective nouns

    Hello,

    The folowing thred makes me to review collective nouns.
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    Please correct me where I'm wrong.

    collective noun + prular noun

    a herd of elephants
    a crowd of people
    a box of crayons

    a pad of paper

    How do we use prular collective nouns ?
    When we talk about a grup of grups of ...

    herds of elefants

    pads of paper

    So far so easy I think, but what construction do we use when we count animals in the grup or in the grups ?

    a herd of a hundred elephants.
    herds of a hundred elephants.

    a pad of five hundred pages.
    pads of five hundred pages.

    Going further, what construction do we use when we know from context what kind of animal we talk about ?

    a herd of hundred.
    herds of hundred.
    The elefants usually keeps in large grups, during ouer expedition we have seen herds of hundred.

    What about party of two or parties of two ?

    Twos means a lots of two things or a grups of two people.
    If we were talking about money then "ones" means a bundle of one pound notes or "fives" means a bundle of a five pound notes.

    Keep ones hire and fives over there.

    Shouldn't it be :

    They came in parties of two and three, and sometimes there appeared a lonely unescorted woman.
    or :
    They came in twos and threes, and sometimes there appeared a lonely unescorted woman.
    btw
    Isn't lonely unescorted repeat ?

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: considering collective nouns

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskin View Post
    So far so easy I think, but what construction do we use when we count animals in the grup or in the grups ?

    a herd of a hundred elephants. Yes
    herds of a hundred elephants. Yes

    a pad of five hundred pages. Yes
    pads of five hundred pages. Yes

    Going further, what construction do we use when we know from context what kind of animal we talk about ?

    a herd of a hundred.
    herds of a hundred.
    The elefants usually keeps in large groups, during our expedition we have seen herds of a hundred or more/ a hundred or so/ about a hundred / at least a hundred

    What about a party of two or parties of two ?

    Twos means a lots of two things or a group of two people. "Twos" is rarely heard. "Couples" is better. A group of couples. But a couple is a man/woman thing (usually). Otherwise, I can't think of a reason why you'd divide a party into "a party of twos".
    If we were talking about money then "ones" means a bundle of one pound notes or "fives" means a bundle of a five pound notes.
    ones - singles, units
    Keep ones hire and fives over there.

    Shouldn't it be :

    They came in parties of two and three, and sometimes there appeared a lonely unescorted woman. I probably would have written it that way.
    or :
    They came in twos and threes, and sometimes there appeared a lonely unescorted woman. Or that
    btw
    Isn't lonely unescorted repeat ?
    No. An escorted person can be lonely, and an unescorted person can be quite happy to be alone. The words mean completely different things.
    R.

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    Default Re: considering collective nouns

    Raymott,

    Thank you.

    Wiljed

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