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    Default We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.
    (A)to stop (B)has stopped (C)stopped (D)stopping

    Which option is correct?

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    Default Re: We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.
    (A)to stop (B)has stopped (C)stopped (D)stopping

    Which option is correct?
    A. is wrong. You can't notice something to stop.
    B. is wrong. You could have noticed that a sedan had stopped in front of the store.
    c. Is correct. You notice a sedan stopped = a stopped sedan, in front of the store.
    D. Possible, but low on the list.

    The best by far is C.

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    Default Re: We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    We noticed a Sedan stopping in front of the store.

    Though the term Parking would be more appropriate, if you did not see the action of stopping of a moving Sedan.

    Alternatively , stopped may be used when you notice it sometime later after it was parked.

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    Cool Re: We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    According to the rules I follow, it should be stopping - verb + noun + bare infinitive/verb-ing.


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    Default Re: We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    I agree with Sudkhamp. 'Stopping' is best, but 'stopped' is acceptable as it can be understood as a participle - 'a sedan [that had been] parked/stopped....'. An analogy would be 'We saw a package left by the doorway.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    I agree with Sudkhamp. 'Stopping' is best, but 'stopped' is acceptable as it can be understood as a participle - 'a sedan [that had been] parked/stopped....'. An analogy would be 'We saw a package left by the doorway.'

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    I'm afraid I can't share your opinion this time, BobK. If it was parked, then it would be the best choice. But it's stopped. In the sentence, according to your way of thinking, the verb stop implies somebody else making the driver stop the car (had been stopped, passive voice) rather than the driver's stopping the car by himself. Besides, the outcome of stopping the car is the car being parked. And what we notice is that outcome - a car parked or a parked car. This is how I see it.


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    Default Re: We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    I'm afraid I can't share your opinion this time, BobK. If it was parked, then it would be the best choice. But it's stopped. In the sentence, according to your way of thinking, the verb stop implies somebody else making the driver stop the car* (had been stopped, passive voice) rather than the driver's stopping the car by himself. Besides, the outcome of stopping the car is the car being parked. And what we notice is that outcome - a car parked or a parked car. This is how I see it.

    *OK - so there's this guy in the passenger seat holding a gun to the driver's head. He says 'Stop here.'

    As I said, I'd agree 'stopping' was best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    *OK - so there's this guy in the passenger seat holding a gun to the driver's head. He says 'Stop here.'
    ...

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    As I said, it's the state that the car is in that we notice, and not what caused the car to get into that state (there's no need to imagine what might have made the driver stop the car, really). We just focus on the car that is parked.
    Following your way of thinking, I could come up with a few more examples, but that's not the point.


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    Default Re: We noticed a sedan _______ in front of the store.

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    As I said, it's the state that the car is in that we notice, and not what caused the car to get into that state (there's no need to imagine what might have made the driver stop the car, really). We just focus on the car that is parked.
    Following your way of thinking, I could come up with a few more examples, but that's not the point.

    Thanks for the clarification - your use of the word "state" helped sort out why we disagree. (I admit that the gun-toting passenger was a bit of a red-herring!)

    You seem to understand "parked" to mean just 'stopped (of a motorized vehicle)'. I and most other native speakers, and - incidentally - the UK law as it applies to the use of mobile phones by drivers, interpret 'parked' differently: 'stopped (of a motorized vehicle), close to the side of the road, often with the intention of getting out and with the engine switched off'. A car can be (that is, be in the state of being) stopped without being parked.


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