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    Cool Underground intensity

    On wrestling, I read: "This visceral action and underground intensity of one of America's most unusual and emblematic sports"

    I find difficulty tryng to understand what underground may mean here?

    May it be referring to the fact it can be seen by someone as a dubious sport, kind of violent gruesome tricky activity not suitable for everybody and so kind of unfolding apart?

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    Default Re: Underground intensity

    The quote references the recent movie, "The Wrestler."

    I have not seen the movie, only the trailer, yet, but I believe the underground reference to be to illegal, gambling, mob or prostitution activites. I believe the love interest is a stripper.

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    Cool Re: Underground intensity

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    The quote references the recent movie, "The Wrestler."

    I have not seen the movie, only the trailer, yet, but I believe the underground reference to be to illegal, gambling, mob or prostitution activites. I believe the love interest is a stripper.
    Yes indeed it's from The Wrestler. Haven't seen the trailer, but I think Wrestling is not an illegal activity; I think it is even broadcast. Do you know what kind of illegality may be involved in the particular wrestling of the movie?

    Thank You

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    Default Re: Underground intensity

    As I mentioned: gambling, prostitution, Mob-related stuff. Add racketeering, extortion.

    Wrestling is legal. Sports are legal. Casinos are (usually) legal. Prostituion is even sometimes legal. And so are Strip Clubs, in most jurisdictions.

    But there is an "underground intensity" often associated with them.

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    Cool Re: Underground intensity

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    As I mentioned: gambling, prostitution, Mob-related stuff. Add racketeering, extortion.

    Wrestling is legal. Sports are legal. Casinos are (usually) legal. Prostituion is even sometimes legal. And so are Strip Clubs, in most jurisdictions.

    But there is an "underground intensity" often associated with them.
    OK, I've got it. Thank You very much. By the way, Mickey Rourke's character is named "Randy "The Ram" RObinson. This "The Ram" is for a kind of "hammer" or for a kind of "mutton"? Which one do you think is more suitable for a wrestler?

    Thanks again

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    Default Re: Underground intensity

    Could it be that "underground" here just means "deep", "hidden", not "under the ground", but "under the surface", that is "under the surface appearance of the wrestlers", deep within their souls, so to speak?

    Or, even more likely, consider that pro wrestling is not a "real sport"; the mass media don't really cover it; but its fans are surprisingly many and form a kind of semi-invisible society united in their intense love of wrestling.
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    Cool Re: Underground intensity

    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    Could it be that "underground" here just means "deep", "hidden", not "under the ground", but "under the surface", that is "under the surface appearance of the wrestlers", deep within their souls, so to speak?

    Or, even more likely, consider that pro wrestling is not a "real sport"; the mass media don't really cover it; but its fans are surprisingly many and form a kind of semi-invisible society united in their intense love of wrestling.

    Really Thank You. As I see, not an easy word here

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    The ram reference would be to a battering ram, I suspect. Or to the verb form, which is to beat with a heavy instrument. The connections to these and to the actions of a male goat (ram) are all etymologically connected, thought I doubt many wrestling fans would understand that word.

    No fan of wresting here, but I would debate its exclusion from the world of "real sport." It is an Olympic sport, probably the original Olympic sport (although, alas, they wear trunks now).

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    Default Re: Underground intensity

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    No fan of wresting here, but I would debate its exclusion from the world of "real sport." It is an Olympic sport, probably the original Olympic sport (although, alas, they wear trunks now).
    This is pro wrestling, not the Olympic sport.

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