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    Dear Friends,

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    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, Attardo’s theory has its own drawbacks, too.

    I just wonder, whether the "too" in the end is redundancy because of "similarly" in the beginning.

    Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palinkasocsi View Post
    Dear Friends,

    Look at the following:

    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, Attardo’s theory has its own drawbacks, too.

    I just wonder, whether the "too" at the end is redundant because of "similarly" at the beginning.

    Thanks a lot.

    Palinkasocsi
    1..."too" is redundant, and I would omit it.

    2...'Similar' is correct, not "Similarly". (it refers to Attardo's theory)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    2...'Similar' is correct, not "Similarly". (it refers to Attardo's theory)
    Hello Öcsi!
    Mizujs?

    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, Attardo’s theory has its own drawbacks, too.

    'Similarly to' works perfectly well in this sentence.

    The adverbial phrase modifies the verb 'has'.

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    Default Re: redundancy problem?

    I think both however and too are redundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Searching for language View Post
    I think both however and too are redundant.
    Why is 'however' redundant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Searching for language View Post
    I think both however and too are redundant.
    'However' is okay, especially when earlier in the text there was mention of the dissimilarities.
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    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, Attardo’s theory has its own drawbacks, too.

    I think you could say, "Attardo's theory is similar to other neo-Grecian conceptions. Attardo's theory, however, has its own drawbacks."

    I don't know the grammatical rule, I just think it would be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    Hello Öcsi!
    Mizujs?

    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, Attardo’s theory has its own drawbacks, too.

    'Similarly to' works perfectly well in this sentence.

    The adverbial phrase modifies the verb 'has'.

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    Well it certainly doesn't work for me.

    The sentence can be rewritten as 'Attardo's theory is similar to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, in that it has its own drawbacks.'

    "Similarly to" can't modify "has". 'similarly' can modify "has", but the word order would have to change.
    '....Attardo's theory similarly has its own drawbacks.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    Well it certainly doesn't work for me.

    The sentence can be rewritten as 'Attardo's theory is similar to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, in that it has its own drawbacks.'

    "Similarly to" can't modify "has". 'similarly' can modify "has", but the word order would have to change.
    '....Attardo's theory similarly has its own drawbacks.'

    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, his theory has its own drawbacks, too.

    What do you think the adverbial in bold modify then? There is only one verb in this sentence and adverbs modify verbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palinkasocsi View Post
    Similarly to other neo-Gricean conceptions, however, Attardo’s theory has its own drawbacks, too.
    Similar to other neo-Grician conceptions, Attardo's theory has drawbacks.

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