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    Arrow A preposition followed by another one

    In the name of the Merciful Allah,
    Hi, is it possible in English to follow a preposition by another one directly without a conjunction?

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    Re: A preposition followed by another one

    In principle, yes, e.g.

    From inside the house he heard a terrible scream.

    although note that this applies only to certain preposition combinations (most notably 'from' + a simple locative preposition such as 'inside, above, below,...').

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    Re: A preposition followed by another one

    ... and after many phrasal verbs it's hard not to - example: I'm fed up with this.

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    Re: A preposition followed by another one

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    ... and after many phrasal verbs it's hard not to - example: I'm fed up with this.

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    As much as I fear a repeated accusation of hair-splitting, I must take issue with your answer: 'up' in the expression that you cite is an adverbial particle, not a preposition!

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    Re: A preposition followed by another one

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    As much as I fear a repeated accusation of hair-splitting, I must take issue with your answer: 'up' in the expression that you cite is an adverbial particle, not a preposition!
    Fear not!

    from where? from (inside the house) -- the object of the prep is a prepositional phrase

    Agreed, 'up' is an adverb in 'fed up with'.

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    Cool Re: A preposition followed by another one

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    Fear not!

    from where? from (inside the house) -- the object of the prep is a prepositional phrase
    The object of a preposition is not a prepositional phrase, it's called the complement of the preposition, which can be realized by a noun (phrase) or a pronoun, or in the phrase in question by an adverbial.
    The whole phrase from inside the house is a prepositional phrase.

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    Re: A preposition followed by another one

    But the adverbial is a prepositional phrase consisting of the noun phrase following the preposition inside, is that correct?
    With 'house' being the headword whichever way you care to look at it?

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    Cool Re: A preposition followed by another one

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedroski View Post
    But the adverbial is a prepositional phrase consisting of the noun phrase following the preposition inside, is that correct?
    With 'house' being the headword whichever way you care to look at it?
    Like I wrote earlier, the whole phrase is a prepositional phrase.
    But if you want to break the phrase into the parts of speech, then you get:
    two prepositions
    one determiner
    one noun


    At clause level, you get:
    an adverbial within a prepositional phrase.

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    Exclamation Re: A preposition followed by another one

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    Fear not!

    from where? from (inside the house) -- the object of the prep is a prepositional phrase
    Indeed it is: the embedded prepositional phrase functions nominally as object/complement of the first preposition. I have nowhere stated otherwise.

    Your disagreement with me appears to rest on a misreading of the original question, which was simply whether a preposition can be directly followed by another, to which the answer is patently 'yes'!!
    Last edited by philo2009; 17-Apr-2009 at 07:42.

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