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    question for linguists, please

    Hey guys,

    I am trying to atomize this sentence:

    She has not taken her hands off me all night.

    Can you help me.

    1) What is the direct object in this sentence?
    2) Supposing her hands is the direct object, what is the personal pronoun me to the phrasal verb take off?

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    Quote Originally Posted by jirikoo View Post
    Hey guys,

    I am trying to atomize this sentence:

    She has not taken her hands off me all night.

    Can you help me.

    1) What is the direct object in this sentence?
    2) Supposing her hands is the direct object, what is the personal pronoun me to the phrasal verb take off?
    If you ask me, "take off" is a verb plus a preposition (not a prep verb).
    Where did he take his hands? Off me. "me" is the object of the preposition "off" and his hands is the receiver of the action expressed by the verb (has not taken).

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    sentence diagramm:

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    If you ask me, "take off" is a verb plus a preposition (not a prep verb).
    Where did he take his hands? Off me. "me" is the object of the preposition "off" and his hands is the receiver of the action expressed by the verb (has not taken).

    thanks for your input but "take off" is really a separable phrasal verb (compulsorily separable) thus here not speaking about a prepositional verb like: "take to...", "take from..." and many more variations to your choice....

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    Quote Originally Posted by jirikoo View Post
    thanks for your input but "take off" is really a separable phrasal verb (compulsorily separable) thus here not speaking about a prepositional verb like: "take to...", "take from..." and many more variations to your choice....
    And what does the pv take off mean? If it is a pv it has a meaning. Give it to me.
    Show me here which "take off" is it in the sentence:

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    And what does the pv take off mean? If it is a pv it has a meaning. Give it to me.
    Show me here which "take off" is it in the sentence:

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    "especially clothes"

    Take off clothes.
    Take off hands.

    Put on clothes.
    Put on hands?! - What does it mean?

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    One more thing:

    you said "take off" is a separable obligatory pv.

    I take off my shirt.
    I take it off.

    Are you sure?

    Furthermore, can you see that [M] symbol?

    This is what it means according to CD:

    A phrasal verb which can (not must) be separated (where the adverb can go before or after the object).
    (not verbs like "look after" which cannot be separated)

    Where did he take his hands? He took it off me. It cannot be a pv.

    "off me" is an adverb phrase and off is a preposition not an adverb.

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    And what does the pv take off mean? If it is a pv it has a meaning. Give it to me.
    Show me here which "take off" is it in the sentence:

    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press


    Moreover, i was googling a tad and by coincidence came across your own post on this forum explaining the obligatorily (compulsorily) separable phrasal verbs...

    I got a plumber in...

    So it does not have to be only my example.

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    Re: question for linguists, please

    He took off her clothes. Where did he take her clothes? Off??! --> It is a pv

    He took her hands off me. Where did he take his hands? He took it off me. --> prep verb

    The two take off's are different.

    Quote Originally Posted by jirikoo View Post
    Moreover, i was googling a tad and by coincidence came across your own post on this forum explaining the obligatorily (compulsorily) separable phrasal verbs...
    This is also mine:

    http://www.flo-joe.com/cgi-bin/dcfor...rumID40&omm=16

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