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    it/competition

    A badminton competition was held in John's school. He decided to take part in it/the competition.

    Should I use 'it' or 'the competition'? To my non-native ear, ending the sentence with 'it' doesn't sound correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    To my non-native ear, ending the sentence with 'it' doesn't sound correct.
    I have to disagree with you on this count. "in it" sounds better. Avoid repetition of words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    I have to disagree with you on this count. "in it" sounds better. Avoid repetition of words.
    He decided to take part would absolutely suffice.


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    I want to get rid (of this).
    I want to take part (in this).

    Why omission of words is not allowed in the first but in the second?

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    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    I want to get rid (of this).
    I want to take part (in this).

    Why omission of words is not allowed in the first but in the second?
    In get rid of something or somebody, making mention of the object is necessary, while in take part (in something) it is not.


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    Re: it/competition

    Hi eng,

    Thanks. You paraphrased my question.
    What does it come down to when necessity raises its ugly head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    Hi eng,

    Thanks. You paraphrased my question.
    What does it come down to when necessity raises its ugly head?
    It may be because of this:
    take part (in something) = participate (in something)
    participate doesn't take an object; however, if you wanted to apply one, it'd be in the form of a prepositional phrase (in something); the in is the inseparable part of the prepositional phrase, but not of the verb participate (or the phrase take part), hence it is not required while referring back to an activity in question.

    get rid of something = discard something
    discard requires an object, and so does the phrase get rid of, even when referring back to something already mentioned; the of is the inseparable part of the whole phrase get rid of.

    This is only my interpretation of the matter under discussion. You ought not to take it for granted.

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