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    Do you think the following underlined verbs tenses can be improved?

    **As soon as he had awaken he arose from his bed and began to feel hungry. He bit a magic tomato and blew the seeds out of his mouth. The seeds flew through the air. They rode on the wind until they reached enchanted tree. The tree shook its branches and the magic bells rang.**

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    **As soon as he had awoken he rose from his bed and began to feel hungry. He bit a magic tomato and blew the seeds out of his mouth. The seeds flew through the air. They rode on the wind until they reached enchanted tree. The tree shook its branches and the magic bells rang.**

    I would also maybe write: As soon as he woke up he rose from his bed.....instead of as soon as he had awoken...

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    Default Re: verb tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by swedish meatball View Post
    **As soon as he had awoken he rose from his bed and began to feel hungry. He bit a magic tomato and blew the seeds out of his mouth. The seeds flew through the air. They rode on the wind until they reached enchanted tree. The tree shook its branches and the magic bells rang.**

    I would also maybe write: As soon as he woke up he rose from his bed.....instead of as soon as he had awoken...
    Hi Swedish Meatball,

    1) I thought we must put either present or past perfect tense behind "as soon as", "after', "until"...etc. Can you clarify for me?

    2) What is the meaning between 'woke' and "had awoken' in the above sentence?

    3) According to the time line while learning English grammar, if I am not wrong, it should go as:

    present
    simple
    <________'___________'___________'___________'____ ______________>
    PAST past past present NOW FUTURE
    perfect simple perfect
    [--------]
    past
    continuous [----------] [-------]


    present present
    continuous perfect
    continuous


    a) Then why we let 'past tense' and 'past perfect tense' be interchangable in the above sentence?

    b) I know there are a lot of discussion, even contradiction once talking about grammer, but I just want to know if there is a clear guideline in the usage of past, past perfect and present perfect in one sentence.

    Tks / ju

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    I am sorry the timeline has gone in a mess once being sent. I don't know how to recover it.

    ju

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    Default Re: verb tenses

    ... on second reading I think
    had awaken
    is still not the right tense here... you can also say had awakened

    That could be the better option.

    As a native speaker I just would not use had awaken , I prefer to use the past tense of awake = woke, awoken, woken....

    So in that regard I would say you are correct... so instead of had awake change it to had awakened.

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    Default Re: verb tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by swedish meatball View Post
    ... on second reading I think
    had awaken
    is still not the right tense here... you can also say had awakened

    That could be the better option.

    As a native speaker I just would not use had awaken , I prefer to use the past tense of awake = woke, awoken, woken....

    So in that regard I would say you are correct... so instead of had awake change it to had awakened.
    What's wrong with "As soon as he had woken..."?
    wake, woke(waked), woken
    (transitive) I wake/
    woke/have woken him.
    (intransitive) He wakes/woke/had woken at 7am
    awake, awoke/(awaked), awoken
    It awakes/awoke (awakaned)/has awoken my senses.
    [waken/wakened /wakened ] ?

    I think the "waked" alternative is more American.

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