I am a UK native teacher.
I recently used this reduced adverbial clause sentence in a text:
Madrid seems hot and noisy after living in Venice.
The text was not to show red. clauses. I wanted to show stative verbs (seem, appear etc) to elementary Ss.
I know that there are other inelegant reductions like AFTER HAVING LIVED, but i wanted to avoid. There may be a tense clash too, but not, I believe, for natives (who wd understand implicitly).
Native colleagues and native non-teachers (my brother and kids) seem fine with this sentence. Some non-native teachers don't like it on grammar purist grounds, however.
Who is correct? Why?
Last edited by pauleddy; 31-May-2009 at 02:20.
On my first read, I got what your colleagues got, a classic example of a dangling modifier:
- Madrid seems hot and noisy after living in Venice.
- Madrid after living in Venice seems hot and noisy.
Cf. Max seems happy after living in Venice.On my second read, I got the meaning your native speaking colleagues and friends got:
Max after living in Venice seems happy.
- Madrid seems hot and noisy after (my) living in Madrid.
The assumption being, or rather native intuition tells us Madrid, a place, cannot live in Venice, and so the utterance in question is not ambiguous, not a dangling modifying, and perfectly understandable.
Who's right? Both groups, of course.