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    http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/these_ones.html

    By itself, there” s nothing wrong with the word “ones” as a plural: “surrounded by her loved ones.” However, “this one” should not be pluralized to “these ones.” Just say “these."
    I don't get it, so this is wrong?
    These cars are okay. (correct)
    1. These ones are okay. (Ones=Cars. So this is incorrect?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/these_ones.html



    I don't get it, so this is wrong?
    These cars are okay. (correct)
    1. These ones are okay. (Ones=Cars. So this is incorrect?)
    Correct.

    Remember? The word this is singular, and the word these is plural:

    This one.
    These ones.

    This car.
    These cars.

    Here's a trick to help you remember:

    The word this has one vowel. one is singular, so this is singular, too.
    The word these has two vowels. two is plural, so these is plural, too.

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    What does the quote below mean? What do they mean by it shouldn't be pluralized to 'these ones'? What do they mean by just say 'these'? If I just use 'these', I have no subject then?
    However, “this one” should not be pluralized to “these ones.” Just say “these."
    http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/these_ones.html
    1. These ones are okay. (This sentence is correct right? If not, why?)

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    What does the quote below mean? What do they mean by it shouldn't be pluralized to 'these ones'? What do they mean by just say 'these'? If I just use 'these', I have no subject then?


    1. These ones are okay. (This sentence is correct right? If not, why?)

    Thanks.
    1. is OK if 'ones' is there for emphasis. For example,

    Pat: These cars are parked illegally.
    Sam: Which ones?
    Pat: These ones, here. (OK)

    The structure is as follows: demonstrative pronoun + plural noun + adverb.

    But if there's no need for emphasis, then 'These' alone says it all on its own, so there's no need to repeat the noun, or replace it with 'ones':

    Pat: These cars are parked illegally.
    Sam: Which ones?
    Pat: These, here. (OK)

    'These' is substantive: it functions as a noun.

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