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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Thanks.

    Hush browns is a meal. (The notional value is singular.)
    But that is not why the verb in the example is singular. It's subject is not referring to a meal.

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Hello Orang,

    Why the verb 'wants' then?

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Quote Originally Posted by orangutan View Post
    Thanks.



    But that is not why the verb in the example is singular. It's subject is not referring to a meal.
    (The man having) the hash browns in the corner wants another coffee.

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    (The man having) the hash browns in the corner wants another coffee.

    svartnik

    Of course.

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    I think quotations or inverted commas allow a little more leeway:

    'Hash browns' sounds good.

    Maybe this is the sort of thing our ear is telling us can be okay in such cases.

    But I think we can agree there has to be a better reason for grouping the plural nouns together into a notional subject than merely forgetting what the subject was by the time you utter the verb.

    "Lessons are what you need before your trip to France." [good]
    "Lessons is what you need before your trip to France." [not so good]
    "Lessons, before your trip to France, is what you need." [not good, but forgivable]

    PS Svartnik... I'm in education, chemistry was just a degree I did a while back... my later degrees are in literary theory.

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Great! That was what I meant asking this question. Thank you Svartnik, you got me absolutely right. Thanks a lot for your assistance.

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Thank you everybody for your great discussion. Thanks a lot for ideas and interest

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    Great! Thank you, Svartnik - you got me 100% right, that was what I mean originally, that is why I had these sort of doubts.

    Thank you everybody for your great discussion.

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    Re: classroom lessons is or are?

    This reminds me of the Hungarian-English phrasebook from Monty Python: People are spreading bad English around to the poor tourists.

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