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    Question Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Hi :)

    Just want to make sure of something.

    1. He teaches is pronounced /teechiz/ not /teechs/, right?

    2. "Months" is pronounced /mons/, right? Or should I try hard to say (months)?
    Is there a difference in pronunciation in British vs., American?

    Thank you,
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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    Hi :)

    Just want to make sure of something.

    1. He teaches is pronounced /teechiz/ not /teechs/, right? Yes, that's right.

    2. "Months" is pronounced /mons/, right? Or should I try hard to say (months)? I,and most of the people I know say 'months'. I don't know if Americans say it differently
    Is there a difference in pronunciation in British vs., American?

    Thank you,
    :)
    Bhai.

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Nice.

    here:
    month - definition of month by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    click both flags, and compare.

    It may be difficult for some learners to get the pronunciations of this phoneme ("th" ) once such sounds don't exist in their languages.

    take a look at this:
    Pronunciation of English th - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Thanks bhaisahab :)


    Thanks marciobarbalho :)
    What I meant is months in plural. I heard it in several American movies pronounced as /mons/

    In Arabic we have the sound /th/ (Although some dialects don't have it), so I can say months easily, but I do wonder if /mons/ is right, or I heard it wrong.

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ducklet Cat View Post
    Thanks bhaisahab :)


    Thanks marciobarbalho :)
    What I meant is months in plural. I heard it in several American movies pronounced as /mons/

    In Arabic we have the sound /th/ (Although some dialects don't have it), so I can say months easily, but I do wonder if /mons/ is right, or I heard it wrong.
    You heard right. /th/ is pronounced [s]: mon[s].

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    You heard right. /th/ is pronounced [s]: mon[s].
    I think you should qualify this. Do you mean in American movies, in L.A., or in US generally?

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I think you should qualify this. Do you mean in American movies, in L.A., or in US generally?
    There's no need to clarify. Read the post again.

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    There's no need to clarify. Read the post again.
    I usually read posts several times before I reply to them to avoid embarrassing myself. It doesn't always work.
    I even quoted the full text of your post, which goes like this:

    "You heard right. /th/ is pronounced [s]: mon[s]."

    From this, I understand that the OP heard the word correctly in the movie. In the movie, the /th/ was pronounced [s], so the word would be mon[s]. However, since he didn't name the movie, I rejected the interpretation that you also heard mon[s]. So, what I don't understand is the context/s in which /th/ is pronounced [s].

    I also rejected the interpretation that /th/ is always pronounced [s] in 'months', because bhai had already said he says 'months', as I do, and that got me to wondering "Who actually says mon[s]?' Discovering the answer was partly the purpose of my question.
    I've now read the whole thread again, and I'm none the wiser. It's still possible I've missed something.

    But even forgetting about my needs, I do think a post in this forum that reads:
    /th/ is pronounced [s]: mon[s].
    needs qualifying. That was the other part purpose of my post which, if you read again, asks you to qualify it, not clarify it.
    Last edited by Raymott; 04-Jul-2009 at 16:45.

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Hello Raymott

    The variation months ~ mon[ts] ~ mon[s] is quite common:

    The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary gives the following as pronunciation variants of months:

    /mʌns/

    /mʌnts/

    (The symbol used by that dictionary for /ʌ/ is /ə/.)


    Most native-speakers find the combination /nθs/ virtually impossible to pronounce, and will ~ despite what they may claim about how they pronounce it ~ 'reduce' it to /ns/ or /nts/ in normal speech. Source

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    Default Re: Teaches, Months, 2 Pronunciation Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
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    Most native-speakers find the combination /nθs/ virtually impossible to pronounce, and will ~ despite what they may claim about how they pronounce it ~ 'reduce' it to /ns/ or /nts/ in normal speech. Source[/INDENT]
    That emphasis is a double-edged sword. To my ear - extraordinarily well trained in phonetics - most non-native-speakers of Br English find the combination [FONT=Arial Unicode]/n[FONT=Verdana]θs/ virtually impossible to detect, and will ~ despite what they may claim ... etc etc, mutatis mutandis.

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