even if or even though followed by an adjective

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"Though", "although" and "if" can be straightly followed by adjectives or prepositional phrases:

e.g. Though with many pages, the book does not have a prologue.
e.g. Although not beautiful, she participated in a pageant/ beauty contest.
e.g. If possible, please avoid it from happening again.

I wonder if the above also applies on "even though" and "even if".
 

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"Though", "although" and "if" can be straightly followed by adjectives or prepositional phrases:

e.g. Though with many pages, the book does not have a prologue.
e.g. Although not beautiful, she participated in a pageant/ beauty contest.
e.g. If possible, please avoid it from happening again.

I wonder if the above also applies on "even though" and "even if".

Why don't you try to write your example sentences using "Even though" and "Even if" and see if you can work it out?
 

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I don't know if it is grammatical to do so even if I try to put the two to the examples
 

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That's why I asked you to try.
 

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I guess it means they work?
 

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I guess it means they work?
I guess that means you are not prepared to write out the sentences you want us to pass comment on.
 

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I guess it means they work?
I think ems was suggesting that, after you had written them, you should post them here for comment. I can understand that just writing the sentences would be pointless if you can't tell if they're right.
 

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Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Write some example sentences using the construction you are querying, post them here and then we will tell you if they're grammatical.
 

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Now I know that "even if" can go with adjectival phrases, noun phrases and prepositional phrases.

As for "even though", the following are few examples:

Even though not beautiful, she participated in a pageant.

Even though without enough time, he still managed to answer 8 out of 10 questions.

It was an unequal marriage, even though a stable and long-lasting one.

Even though not quickly enough, she still finished the whole race.
 

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Now I know that "even if" can go with adjectival phrases, noun phrases and prepositional phrases.

As for "even though", the following are few examples:

Even though not beautiful, she participated in a pageant.

Even though without enough time, he still managed to answer 8 out of 10 questions. "Even without enough time ..."

It was an unequal marriage, even though a stable and long-lasting one. "... albeit a stable one."

Even though not quickly enough, she still finished the whole race. "Although not quickly enough ..."
These all read awkwardly. I've given some alternatives which don't use pronouns. But most of them would sound better with pronouns (especially 1 and 3), as would the ones in your original post, again especially 1 and 3.
 

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Thank you for the above suggestions.

But I also want to confirm from you that combining "even though" with the kinds of phrase i.e. adjectival, noun, prepositional, etc. above is grammatical. Just those specific examples I listed above are not natural enough.
 
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