singing pronunciation ?

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If you have time, just listen to my question and my pronunciation trial related to the word singing and comment.
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Click on the word "singing" in the following link and listen carefully. It is definitely not pronounced the same as "sinning".

https://www.forvo.com/search/singing/
Thanks for your interest. I can easily use such sites and more to listen, but what is important for me is to find someone listen to my word pronunciation to direct me.
 

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So, can I say we leave the g sound in words with ng letters such as sing or bang ?
 

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No, you can't leave it out. Otherwise, "sing" gets pronounced the same as "sin" and "bang" the same as "ban", which if of course wrong.
You need to stop just short of finishing the "g" sound. Try practising that.
 

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So, can I say we leave out the g sound in words with ng letters such as sing or bang ?
Many Americans pronounce the -ing ending of present participles as -in. We don't extend that practice to other words ending in ing.
 

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In most varieties of BrE there is no /g/ sound in 'singing'. The sound represented by the letters n + g is /ŋ/.
The same is true in most American English accents.
 

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It's a poor quality recording but it sounds to me like you're saying sinning.

You've got the final nasal sound right but not the first. You should aim to pronounce the first ng just the same as you do the second. You should be able to feel the sound both times at the back of your throat as your tongue touches your soft palate.
 
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Click here to hear three native speakers pronounce "singing" on Forvo.
 

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After searching and studying the sound ŋ, I think that there is no g sound, as in go , in the sound ŋ.I can say it consists of n sound and stopping air at the back of the mouth.I hope I am close the right sound.
 
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I can say it consists of n sound and stopping air at the back of the mouth.

No, that's not right. It is not like n at all.

When you make a n sound, the tip of your tongue touches the hard roof of your mouth. When you make a ng, the back of your tongue touches the soft roof (right at the back). They are two very different ways of articulation.

You do not pronounce a n sound when pronouncing a ng sound.
 

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There is a soft "g" after the "n".

There's no "n" involved at all. In fact, that's precisely where ensan is going wrong, I think.
 
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