[General] Honorifics

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We can say 'the president'. We can't say 'the Barak Obama'.

It is not accurate to write more than one honorifics.
I think some of the following are not good.

His Excellency Barak Obama hosted the G8 summit in Camp David.

His Excellency Mr. Barak Obama hosted the G8 summit in Camp David.


His Excellency President Barak Obama hosted the G8 summit in Camp David.


His Excellency the President Barak Obama hosted the G8 summit in Camp David.
 

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You can certainly stack titles, like the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr.

None of your suggestions are appropriate because we do not use honorifics like "His Excellency" for the President of the US. The president is elected by the people: he is our servant, not our master.

The title is President Barack (note the spelling) Obama. He is referred to as "Mister President."
 

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Just to clarify, in case someone is confused. The president is addressed as "Mr. President" but when referred tosimply as "President Smith" or "the president."

I believe we use "His Excellency" for ambassadors, don't we?
 

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In the US, it is Mr.President.
In small third world countries, it is common to use the title His Excellency.
To stack the titles look odd.
I have seen this.
His Excellency Mr President Girma will ...
 

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His Excellency Mr President Girma will ...
They may do that in some countries, but it is not normal in Britain, Ireland or the USA. I suspect that it is not normal in Canada, Australia or New Zealand, either.
 

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Actually, "His Excellency" could well be used to address the President of the USA at diplomatic meetings or in diplomatic documents. It's not uncommon to call presidents Their Excellencies, not only in third world countries. Here is an example of a letter to Barack Obama from a US-based organization, in which this style is used. Here (pdf) is a letter to George W. Bush from a Hungarian Member of Parliament, also using this style.

The President is one of the US officials who can be styled "the Honorable", for example:

The Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States,

as used here (pdf, page 2).
 

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is an example of a letter to Barack Obama from a US-based organization, in which this style is used.

It's inappropriate, but I see they carbon copied many other heads of state, so they probably didn't want to appear to be slighting the US president. They also applied the honorific to the Canadian and UK heads of state.
 

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Actually, "His Excellency" could well be used to address the President of the USA at diplomatic meetings or in diplomatic documents. It's not uncommon to call presidents Their Excellencies, ...
I suspect there may have been mother-tongue-influenced false friends in many post-colonial situations. In living memory, in Portugal, it was not uncommon for any person of higher status than the speaker to be addressed as 'Sua Excellência' (a bit like 'Governor' in British English, though not so informal). So I imagine Angola, Mozambique, and other such Portuguese-speaking former colonies may have a tendency to be quite free with this honorific.

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Off topic, but I found it interesting that most of the gifts listed in the second document to which BC provided a link were stored in various archives. The bottles of wine, however, were "Handled Pursuant to Secret Service Policy". Hmmm.
 

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Off topic, but I found it interesting that most of the gifts listed in the second document to which BC provided a link were stored in various archives. The bottles of wine, however, were "Handled Pursuant to Secret Service Policy". Hmmm.

So, they drank them with some Cartagena hookers?
 

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I believe we use "His Excellency" for ambassadors, don't we?

I would use it for ambassadors and High Commissioners. Not that I hang out much with them.


I have been put right on this
[strike]senior Catholic officials like cardinals, and bishops too I have read below[/strike]
 
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I have a feeling bishops are 'Your Worship' and either cardinals or archbishops (not sure - as the only one I've 'met' (well. I handed him a cheque on behalf of my school in the early '60s) are '[STRIKE]Your Eminence[/STRIKE]'*. But maybe 'Your Excellency' is a catch-all.

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PS *Bonggg - no, that's the Pope.
 
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I have a feeling bishops are 'Your Worship' and either cardinals or archbishops (not sure - as the only one I've 'met' (well. I handed him a cheque on behalf of my school in the early '60s) are '[STRIKE]Your Eminence[/STRIKE]'*. But maybe 'Your Excellency' is a catch-all.

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PS *Bonggg - no, that's the Pope.

No, you were right. Cardinals are Their Eminences. The Pope is His Holiness.
 

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Your Excellency = bishop
Your Eminence = cardinal
 
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