[Grammar] I would not live in a place where or which or that ?!

nininaz · Dec 6, 2014

Hello,
Which of the following sentences are correct?! And why?! Can we always use 'where' for the locations instead of 'that' and 'which' ?!

I would not live in a place where is far away from downtown.

I would not live in a place which is far away from downtown.

I would not live in a place that is far away from downtown.

Thanks

MikeNewYork · Dec 6, 2014

"Where" does not work. The other two are fine.

nininaz · Dec 6, 2014

MikeNewYork said:
"Where" does not work. The other two are fine.

Thanks. Could you please tell me Why?! I get confused about it because 'in a place' indicates a location. when can we use 'where' ?!
Is it correct?!
I wouldn't live in a place where it is cold.

MikeNewYork · Dec 6, 2014

Your new example works.

nininaz · Dec 6, 2014

MikeNewYork said:
Your new example works.

I think for using relative adverbs, it needs to play the role of adverb for the verb within the clause?!otherwise we can't use the relative adverbs.
Could you please give me more examples of the sentences like my first examples which where or when or why is not the adverbial clause, and I can't use them as my first example.

How about the sentence?!
I wouldn't live in the places where they are far from downtown.

bhaisahab · Dec 6, 2014

No, that doesn't work. Instead of "where they", use "that.

nininaz · Dec 6, 2014

bhaisahab said:
No, that doesn't work. Instead of "where they", use "that.

I wouldn't live in the places which/ that they are far from downtown. Why I need to remove "subject : They" ?!

Tarheel · Dec 6, 2014

The word "they" in that sentence is not the subject. In fact, it doesn't seem to have any function at all.

Try:

I wouldn't live in places that are far from downtown.

nininaz · Dec 7, 2014

Tarheel said:
The word "they" in that sentence is not the subject. In fact, it doesn't seem to have any function at all.

Try:

I wouldn't live in places that are far from downtown.

How about " I don't enjoy parties where/which/that everyone is crowded into one small room"? All of them are correct?!

Matthew Wai · Dec 7, 2014

'I don't enjoy a party in a crowded small room.'

Not a teacher.

nininaz · Dec 7, 2014

Matthew Wai said:
'I don't enjoy a party in a crowded small room.'

Not a teacher.

I don't enjoy parties where everyone is crowded into one small room.
is correct because party is event not place?!

Matthew Wai · Dec 7, 2014

I think 'where' can refer to both events and places.
'I don't enjoy a party where everyone is getting drunk.'
'I don't enjoy a party at which everyone is getting drunk.'
'I don't enjoy a party that is held in a small room.'

Not a teacher.

Tarheel · Dec 7, 2014

How about:

I don't enjoy a party where nobody is drunk.

;-)

Tarheel · Dec 7, 2014

nininaz said:
How about " I don't enjoy parties where/which/that everyone is crowded into one small room"? All of them are correct?!

I prefer where. I wouldn't use the others.

Matthew Wai · Dec 8, 2014

nininaz said:
everyone is crowded into one small room.

Is it correct to say so? May I say 'all people are crowded together in a small room'?

Not a teacher.

Tarheel · Dec 8, 2014

Matthew Wai said:
Is it correct to say so? May I say 'all people are crowded together in a small room'?

Not a teacher.

No. Think about it. What does "all people" mean? It means everybody. Can you you really get everybody into one small room? (You can't even get everybody into one really big building. Not even close.)

Matthew Wai · Dec 9, 2014

Tarheel said:
What does "all people" mean?

I mean all people at the party.

Not a teacher.

MikeNewYork · Dec 9, 2014

It would be better to say "all the people" when referring to a specific group.

Tarheel · Dec 9, 2014

Matthew, please note that that wasn't really a question in the normal sense of the word, since I asked the question and then I answered it.

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