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    Is the term correct?

    The weather is too charming to be dining in tonight.

    Is 'charming' correctly used of weather?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    It's possible, if you're being deliberately playful enough to "anthropomorphize" the weather, but most people would say nice, or lovely, or beautiful.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    It's possible, if you're being deliberately playful enough to "anthropomorphize" the weather, but most people would say nice, or lovely, or beautiful.
    What does "anthropomorphize" the weather mean? Thanks.


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    Re: Is the term correct?

    It means to bestow properties upon weather that usually only humans have.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    It's possible, if you're being deliberately playful enough to "anthropomorphize" the weather, but most people would say nice, or lovely, or beautiful.
    Are you sure this is anthropomorphism? Why can't the weather charm?
    There's no intentionality implied. A sunset, a painting or any other pleasing object can charm a person.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    To me, charming implies sentience, and an object can only do so as a vehicle for another's intentionality. I wouldn't say a sunset was charming, even if it did charm you. In our English, charming implies the sum of a number of emotive attributes.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    I wouldn't say a sunset was charming, even if it did charm you.
    In my dialect anything that <verbs> you can take on an adjective derived from the verb, whether there is intentionality or not.

    Coffee is stimulating because it stimulates you. (Even without trying!)
    Sunsets are charming because they charm you. " "
    Arguments are provocative because they provoke you.
    A warm bath can be soothing because it soothes you.

    Are you saying that such sentences as:
    "That's a charming necklace you have on" and "Let's buy a charming little cottage by the sea" are misguided?

    If something inanimate charms you, what adjective would you apply to it to describe its effect on you? I would unhesitatingly say "charming".

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    The weather is too charming to be dining in tonight.

    There is something about that construction which doesn't look or sound right, perhaps it's 'too charming'or maybe 'charming doesn't fit very well with 'weather. However, I agree with Ray that we could say 'Let's buy a charming little cottage by the sea' for example.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    The weather is too charming to be dining in tonight.

    There is something about that construction which doesn't look or sound right, perhaps it's 'too charming'or maybe 'charming doesn't fit very well with 'weather. However, I agree with Ray that we could say 'Let's buy a charming little cottage by the sea' for example.
    Thanks for this input, Bhaisahab.

    I also agree with Ray about the cottage: a human construction, with aesthetic properties, not least of which would be its placement within nature, its garden, the materials used, their Frank-Lloyd-Wrightian harmony with the surrounding landscape....

    I wouldn't say a tub of luke-warm water could be charming, however. And I think our language, in most regions, tends to regard the word "charming" as a complex sum of "je ne sais quois," rather than a single good feeling. But I respect Ray's viewpoint, as always.

    The necklace I also agree can be charming without the slightest sense of incongruity, Ray. And when I said "even if it did charm you," I should have highlighted you, as I was being a bit playful there, in contrasting your view from mine.

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    Re: Is the term correct?

    The weather is too charming to be dining in tonight.

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