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    open & opened

    Hi folks !

    I have a simple doubt:

    What is the correct way to say - "the door is open" or "the door is opened" ?
    what about closing: "the door is close" or "the door is closed"?

    Regarding open it seems to me more natural just to say "the door is open",
    while regarding close it seems to be the opposite since "the door is close"
    should mean the door is quite near, right?


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    Re: open & opened

    Both 'open' and 'opened' are possible.

    The door is opened. It had been stuck and now it has been forced open. So it is not stuck anymore. It is possible, however, that it is now closed.

    The door is open. -- It is not closed now.

    The door is closed; so, it is not open now. 'close' is not possible in the sentence.


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    Re: open & opened

    The choice of "open/opened" depends on what we're talking about. Yes, we can say (and often do) that "the store is open," but if we're talking about the actual process of someone opening the doors, we'd say "The store is opened every morning at 8 o'clock." "Close" does not function the same was as "open"; when we use "close" as an adjective, it means something else (not "closed"), something like "nearby" or "stuffy": "We live close to our neighbors" and "It's awfully close in here. Open a window." (It has other meanings, too: like "secretive," "tightly woven or organized," etc.)

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    Re: open & opened

    I understand both expressions "the door is open" and "the door is opened" sound correct. However let me insist just a little more:
    Which grammar construction is being used here? Shouldn't the verb be
    in the past participle? See the following examples:
    - the homework is done - the car is broken - the window is shut
    - a noise was heard - the book was read - the car was painted -
    in all of them the verb comes in the past participle.

    So I would like to ask again: The sentences "the book is open on page 6" -
    "the book was open on chapter 6" - "the store will be open tomorrow by six" -
    "the door was open when he arrived" are indeed correct? All of them
    admit both forms open and opened?

    Is this an exception? Does it happen to another verb?

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    Re: open & opened

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    I understand both expressions "the door is open" and "the door is opened" sound correct. However let me insist just a little more:
    Which grammar construction is being used here? Shouldn't the verb be
    in the past participle? See the following examples:
    - the homework is done - the car is broken - the window is shut done, broken and shut are all adjectives in these sentences
    - a noise was heard - the book was read - the car was painted -
    in all of them the verb comes in the past participle. heard, read and painted are all past participles here comprising the passive

    So I would like to ask again: The sentences "the book is open on page 6" -
    "the book was open on chapter 6" - "the store will be open tomorrow by six" -
    "the door was open when he arrived" are indeed correct? All of them
    admit both forms open and opened?

    Is this an exception? Does it happen to another verb?
    It's about whether you want to talk about the state that something is in, or the action that is performed.

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    Re: open & opened

    Let us come back to the previous examples:
    a) The homework is done by the students
    b) The car is broken by the thieves
    c) The window is shut by the teacher
    Are "done", "broken" and "shut" still adjectives as you said ?

    And besides, if I change the sentences you said were on passive voice to:
    d) A noise is heard.
    e) The book is read.
    f) The car is painted
    Does it change the status now of heard, read and painted to adjectives ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    Let us come back to the previous examples:
    a) The homework is done by the students
    b) The car is broken by the thieves
    c) The window is shut by the teacher
    Are "done", "broken" and "shut" still adjectives as you said ? No, you've just shifted the meaning, from state into action.

    And besides, if I change the sentences you said were on passive voice to:
    d) A noise is heard.
    e) The book is read.
    f) The car is painted
    Does it change the status now of heard, read and painted to adjectives ? Sort of.

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    Re: open & opened

    In case someone wants to read more on the topic, here's a good read, I reckon:
    http://www.sfb441.uni-tuebingen.de/b...20passives.pdf

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