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    Contact can be made

    Contact can be made immediately the door is opened.

    This sentence is taken from Collins Cobuild Usage. But I don't understand what it means. Does 'contact' refer to electricity current, or anything else?

    Could I ask native speakers to help me please? Thank you in advance.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by joham View Post
    Contact can be made immediately the door is opened.

    This sentence is taken from Collins Cobuild Usage. But I don't understand what it means. Does 'contact' refer to electricity current, or anything else?

    Could I ask native speakers to help me please? Thank you in advance.
    It could refer to an electrical contact, but without context it is extremely difficult to be sure.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    I think your example is missing a conjunction: "when" or "after" the door is opened, would sound better to me. Collins Cobuild make good dictionaries, but when you're copy-editing so many editions errors are bound to occur from time to time.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    I think your example is missing a conjunction: "when" or "after" the door is opened, would sound better to me. Collins Cobuild make good dictionaries, but when you're copy-editing so many editions errors are bound to occur from time to time.
    Thank you very much, konungursvia. Collins Cobuild says that in British English 'immediately' can be used as a conjunction. (And many Chinese teachers of English like to set test items on this usage.) It is the 'contact' that confuses me.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by joham View Post
    Thank you very much, konungursvia. Collins Cobuild says that in British English 'immediately' can be used as a conjunction. (And many Chinese teachers of English like to set test items on this usage.) It is the 'contact' that confuses me.
    'Immediately the door is opened' is fine (in BrE). As I said in my earlier post, it is difficult to know what the whole sentence means without context.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    'Immediately the door is opened' is fine (in BrE). As I said in my earlier post, it is difficult to know what the whole sentence means without context.
    Hi - This usage is new to me. Can you give a few other examples?

    For example, would "He opened the door immediately she knocked" be okay?

    I would have said it was wrong (which it would be in American English) so I'd like to be more familiar with the pattern.

    Thanks!

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    I am following the thread with interest.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Hi - This usage is new to me. Can you give a few other examples?

    For example, would "He opened the door immediately she knocked" be okay?

    I would have said it was wrong (which it would be in American English) so I'd like to be more familiar with the pattern.

    Thanks!
    Yes, this is quite normal in AusE too.
    Immediately I arrived, they offered me a drink.

    I can't think of any other words we do this with. Nor can I give you a definitive answer about your sentence, since all that thinking has temporarily impaired my acceptability antennae! I'll reply again tomorrow.

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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Hi - This usage is new to me. Can you give a few other examples?

    For example, would "He opened the door immediately she knocked" be okay?

    I would have said it was wrong (which it would be in American English) so I'd like to be more familiar with the pattern.

    Thanks!
    Here are a couple of examples:
    Immediately I opened the door the dog came in.
    It started to rain immediately I got outside.


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    Re: Contact can be made

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Hi - This usage is new to me. Can you give a few other examples?

    For example, would "He opened the door immediately she knocked" be okay?

    I would have said it was wrong (which it would be in American English) so I'd like to be more familiar with the pattern.

    Thanks!
    This sentence would be unexceptional:
    Immediately she knocked, he opened the door.
    I'm still having difficulty with your original, Barb. Perhaps we tend to only start sentences with this construction here, but I note bhai's example:
    It started to rain immediately I got outside.
    Maybe bhai would like to give his opinion on your sentence.

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