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    ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

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    USATODAY.com - Reunited, and it feels so wait, who's reuniting again?
    Where they'll be: It depends who you ask. Dates posted on thewonderstuff.co.uk, billed as the official Wonder Stuff site, list most major U.S. cities. But on thewonderstuff.com, former members are denouncing the tour, saying the only original member involved is singer Miles Hunt, who has been using the Wonder Stuff name without their permission.

    Is "singer Miles Hunt" correct? Is it incorrect to say "the singer Miles Hunt"?

    BBC News | AMERICAS | George Michael video case dismissed
    An attempt by an undercover Los Angeles policeman to sue the singer George Michael has been dismissed by a court in California.

    Is "the singer George Michael ..." correct? Is it incorrect to say "singer George Michael"?

    Thank you.

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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    Hello

    USATODAY.com - Reunited, and it feels so wait, who's reuniting again?
    Where they'll be: It depends who you ask. Dates posted on thewonderstuff.co.uk, billed as the official Wonder Stuff site, list most major U.S. cities. But on thewonderstuff.com, former members are denouncing the tour, saying the only original member involved is singer Miles Hunt, who has been using the Wonder Stuff name without their permission.

    Is "singer Miles Hunt" correct? Is it incorrect to say "the singer Miles Hunt"?

    BBC News | AMERICAS | George Michael video case dismissed
    An attempt by an undercover Los Angeles policeman to sue the singer George Michael has been dismissed by a court in California.

    Is "the singer George Michael ..." correct? Is it incorrect to say "singer George Michael"?

    Thank you.
    Both are correct.


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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Both are correct.
    Thank you for the response, Raymott.

    Which do you prefer?


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    Cool Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    Hello

    USATODAY.com - Reunited, and it feels so wait, who's reuniting again?
    Where they'll be: It depends who you ask. Dates posted on thewonderstuff.co.uk, billed as the official Wonder Stuff site, list most major U.S. cities. But on thewonderstuff.com, former members are denouncing the tour, saying the only original member involved is singer Miles Hunt, who has been using the Wonder Stuff name without their permission.

    Is "singer Miles Hunt" correct? Is it incorrect to say "the singer Miles Hunt"?

    BBC News | AMERICAS | George Michael video case dismissed
    An attempt by an undercover Los Angeles policeman to sue the singer George Michael has been dismissed by a court in California.

    Is "the singer George Michael ..." correct? Is it incorrect to say "singer George Michael"?

    Thank you.
    Yes, both are correct. As I stated previoiusly in another thread, article usage can be challenging and sometimes there is more than one correct answer.

    the singer George Michael < I would say that using the definite article in this phrase emphasizes the fact that this singer is well known - unique - the one and only George Michael. Though to be grammatically correct, it is not necessary to use the definite article here. The sentence - phrase - is correct with or without "the".



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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    Thank you for the response, Raymott.

    Which do you prefer?
    I prefer the form without "the".

    Here are some other examples:
    The bravery award went to ambulance bearer John Smith.
    Police have arrested financier and scumbag Bernie Madoff.


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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Here is another example of the form without the.

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    Keyboardist Richard Wright of Pink Floyd died Monday of cancer in Britain. He was 65.


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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    Here is another example of the form without the.

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    Keyboardist Richard Wright of Pink Floyd died Monday of cancer in Britain. He was 65.
    I think it is usual to not use "the' before a word that identifies the person's occupation when it is at the beginning of the sentence. That's just something I think because to place "the" at the beginning of this sentence, to me, sounds less familiar or usual, somehow.

    As I said before, it's good to remember that sometimes there is more than one correct answer with articles, and their usage can be very tricky, as well, sometimes, especially for those whose first language does not have articles.

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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by PROESL View Post
    the singer George Michael < I would say that using the definite article in this phrase emphasizes the fact that this singer is well known - unique - the one and only George Michael. Though to be grammatically correct, it is not necessary to use the definite article here. The sentence - phrase - is correct with or without "the".


    The other way of looking at this is the following.
    If there is only one famous George Michael, there is no need to further define him as "the singer George Michael". But that's not to say that nobody would say that.

    "the singer George Michael" would be important when there is at least one other famous George Michael.

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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Both have the article, it's just a lot earlier in the first case, if you look closely. A proper name and a definite article both make the reader understand the unique character of the person being mentioned.

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    Re: ... to sue the singer George Michael ...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    The other way of looking at this is the following.
    If there is only one famous George Michael, there is no need to further define him as "the singer George Michael". But that's not to say that nobody would say that.

    "the singer George Michael" would be important when there is at least one other famous George Michael.
    It could be there to help those, like my mother, who have heard his name but aren't sure why he's famous.

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