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    Post Using 'ever' or not makes any differences?

    Hi,

    I have a few questions, hope I can get some help from you, thanks!

    Example situation 1: I know that Jenny plays tennis, I want to know if she plays basketball, should I ask 'Do you play basketball' or 'Do you ever play basketball'?
    They both hold the same meaning?

    2: I have never eaten caviar. I want to know if Jenny has ever eaten it,
    #1 'Do you eat caviar?'
    #2 'Do you ever eat caviar?'
    #3 'Have you ever eaten caviar?'
    Which one is appropriate to ask? #2 and #3 are asking about the same thing? Why is #1 inappropriate(I guess)?

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    #2

    Re: Using 'ever' or not makes any differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Hi,

    I have a few questions, hope I can get some help from you, thanks!

    Example situation 1: I know that Jenny plays tennis, I want to know if she plays basketball, should I ask 'Do you play basketball' or 'Do you ever play basketball'?
    They both hold the same meaning?

    2: I have never eaten caviar. I want to know if Jenny has ever eaten it,
    #1 'Do you eat caviar?'
    #2 'Do you ever eat caviar?'
    #3 'Have you ever eaten caviar?'
    Which one is appropriate to ask? #2 and #3 are asking about the same thing? Why is #1 inappropriate(I guess)?
    Example situation 1: I know that Jenny plays tennis, I want to know if she plays basketball, should I ask 'Do you play basketball' or 'Do you ever play basketball'?
    They both hold the same meaning? They have essentially the same meaning.

    2: I have never eaten caviar. I want to know if Jenny has ever eaten it,
    #1 'Do you eat caviar?'
    #2 'Do you ever eat caviar?'
    #3 'Have you ever eaten caviar?'
    Which one is appropriate to ask? #2 and #3 are asking about the same thing? Why is #1 inappropriate(I guess)?

    If you want to know whether Jenny has ever eaten caviar in her life, only 3 is correct. 2 is asking if maybe she sometimes eats it, 1 is asking more or less the same as 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Example situation 1: I know that Jenny plays tennis, I want to know if she plays basketball, should I ask 'Do you play basketball' or 'Do you ever play basketball'?
    They both hold the same meaning? They have essentially the same meaning.

    2: I have never eaten caviar. I want to know if Jenny has ever eaten it,
    #1 'Do you eat caviar?'
    #2 'Do you ever eat caviar?'
    #3 'Have you ever eaten caviar?'
    Which one is appropriate to ask? #2 and #3 are asking about the same thing? Why is #1 inappropriate(I guess)?

    If you want to know whether Jenny has ever eaten caviar in her life, only 3 is correct. 2 is asking if maybe she sometimes eats it, 1 is asking more or less the same as 2.
    Dear bhaisahab,

    So, 'Do you ever mop the floor?' is not asking 'whether you have the experience of mopping floors or not in your life', but asking 'do you sometimes mop the floor'?

    If I want to know whether you have the experience of doing something in your life, I should ask 'have you ever done...'? In this case, 'have you done...' has the same meaning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Dear bhaisahab,

    So, 'Do you ever mop the floor?' is not asking 'whether you have the experience of mopping floors or not in your life', but asking 'do you sometimes mop the floor'?

    If I want to know whether you have the experience of doing something in your life, I should ask 'have you ever done...'? In this case, 'have you done...' has the same meaning?
    If you want to know if someone has ever done something in their life, you should ask "Have you ever..." "Have you..." doesn't necessarily mean "ever".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    If you want to know if someone has ever done something in their life, you should ask "Have you ever..." "Have you..." doesn't necessarily mean "ever".
    Dear bhaisahab,

    Please allow me to ask once again, 'Do you ever mop the floor?' is not asking 'whether you have the experience of mopping floors or not in your life', but asking 'do you sometimes mop the floor in your daily life'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Dear bhaisahab,

    Please allow me to ask once again, 'Do you ever mop the floor?' is not asking 'whether you have the experience of mopping floors or not in your life', but asking 'do you sometimes mop the floor in your daily life'?
    No. There is a difference between "Do you ever mop the floor" and "Have you ever mopped the floor".
    "Have you ever mopped the floor". can mean 'whether you have the experience of mopping floors or not in your life'. But it would have to be "Have you ever mopped a floor". By writing "the floor" you are asking 'whether you have the experience of mopping this floor or not in your life'
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    "Do you ever mop the floor" means "The floor is dirty. Don't you mop it sometimes". ie
    'do you sometimes mop the floor in your daily life'?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    "Do you ever mop the floor" means "The floor is dirty. Don't you mop it sometimes". ie'do you sometimes mop the floor in your daily life'?
    situation: John has been dating Jenny for a few weeks. David, a friend of John's, wants to know if John has kissed Jenny. David asks John:
    #1 'Do you ever kissed her?'
    #2 'Do you sometimes kiss her?'

    my questions:1. Is #1 appropriate to ask? or there is better way #3 to ask in this case?
    2. Isn't #2 a little bit strange?
    Last edited by Heidi; 09-Sep-2009 at 01:22.

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    Re: Using 'ever' or not makes any differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    situation: John has been dating Jenny for a few weeks. David, a friend of John's, wants to know if John has kissed Jenny. David asks John:
    #1 'Do you ever kissed her?'
    #2 'Do you sometimes kiss her?'

    my questions:1. Is #1 appropriate to ask? or there is better way #3 to ask in this case?
    2. Isn't #2 a little bit strange? Yes
    #1 is OK. David is likely to express his curiosity in a more raunchy manner. But assuming this is for syntax,
    #3 Have you kissed her yet? would be the best.

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