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    Grammar

    Hello, could you help me with these grammar errors.
    Why you think a student would make these errors?

    I am a secretary for five years.

    I have eat breakfast.

    Shes liked him since six months.

    When you start work?

    Ive been knowing her for three months.

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    Re: Grammar

    I am not a teacher! I may be wrong.

    I have been a secratery for five years.

    I have eaten breakfast/ I took breakfast/ I ate my breakfast

    When did you start your work?

    I have known her from three months.

    I hope any English teacher will help you better.

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    Re: Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by maryvalerie View Post
    Hello, could you help me with these grammar errors.
    Why you think a student would make these errors?

    I am a secretary for five years.

    I have eat breakfast.

    Shes liked him since six months.

    When you start work?

    Ive been knowing her for three months.
    Do you want to get the right answers or rather, why students make this kind of errors?

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    Re: Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by maryvalerie View Post
    Hello, could you help me with these grammar errors.
    Why you think a student would make these errors?

    I am a secretary for five years.

    I have eat breakfast.

    Shes liked him since six months.

    When you start work?

    Ive been knowing her for three months.
    Why don't you tell us your thoughts first?
    Do you mean an Italian student, or any ESL student?


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    Re: Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Why don't you tell us your thoughts first?
    Do you mean an Italian student, or any ESL student?
    i) What the mistake is.
    ii) Why you think it has been made.
    iii) How you would explain and correct the mistake with a student.

    Shes liked him since six months.
    When you start work?
    Ive been knowing her for three months.

    thank you

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    Re: Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by maryvalerie View Post
    Hello, could you help me with these grammar errors.
    Why do you think a student would make these errors?

    I am a secretary for five years.

    I have eat breakfast.

    Shes liked him since six months.

    When you start work?

    Ive been knowing her for three months.

    The corrections made by Huda-M are correct.
    No. 4 :(maybe the intended question was: when do/did you start work(ing)?
    As for the reason why students make these mistakes....well, if I knew the answer I'd be the happiest man in Italy!!! Seriously though, as a teacher I can only say that no matter how many times I try to drum into them the differences between the two languages, they will invariably get them all wrong.
    It's a daunting task (or, should I say, a losing battle) but I'll just keep soldiering on.

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    Re: Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by maryvalerie View Post
    i) What the mistake is.
    ii) Why you think it has been made.
    iii) How you would explain and correct the mistake with a student.

    Shes liked him since six months.
    When you start work?
    Ive been knowing her for three months.

    thank you
    No, I know what you're asking. I meant why don't you give your ideas about why these things might be happening i.e. some evidence that you've thought about it. I imagine it's homework of some sort.

    For:
    When you start work?
    Is it possible that a student might use this word order because, in her native language it goes something like: Quando commincia il lavoro?, which, if translated literally would read "When you start work?"
    Or do you think that this could not possibly be an explanation?

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    Re: Grammar

    [When you start work?
    Is it possible that a student might use this word order because, in her native language it goes something like: Quando commincia il lavoro?, which, if translated literally would read "When you start work?"
    Or do you think that this could not possibly be an explanation?[/QUOTE]


    Of course it is an explanation, Raymott!! Students are sooooo lazy, they just don't bother trying to remember the basic rules governing sentence structure in English. It's much easier to translate from one language into another, regardless of how different English syntax can be.
    Believe me, there's no other explanation!! And when we're not dealing with lazy students, there are inevitable interference errors from Italian that are so hard to counteract. Crucial for them would be daily exposure to spoken English, but not many of my students are willing to spend a month or two in an English-speaking country.
    Any suggestions???

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    But there are quick students like me too!!!!!

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    Re: Grammar

    Quote Originally Posted by wace View Post

    Any suggestions???
    I believe students should be taught how to think, regardless of the subject matter. Many of them might have tried it once or twice in the past and not noticed any benefit.
    Critical thinking is taught in some English classes in English-speaking schools - to the detriment of grammar and literature, unfortunately.
    But with the Internet, and the ready availability of people who can think for them, many students find it a skill not worth practicing.
    I think that, just like a little exercise can help an unfit person, a little thinking can help even the dullest students - even if it is something they will never master as well as others do.

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