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    Past Perfect

    Are these correct? If not, why? What do they mean?

    Past Perfect Definition:
    Note: - When we have to describe two or more actions in the past in a sentence, we use the past perfect tense to describe the action, which happened first.
    For eg. when I reached there, the bus had left already.
    In the above sentence the bus had left before I reached there.

    1. The morning of the day I got sick, I had been thinking. (I don't seen the second event here. Or is it like this, he Had been thinking before he got sick? It doesn't make sense though?)
    2. The morning of the day I got sick, I have been thinking. (If this is not okay, why?)

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    Re: Past Perfect

    The basic difference between a past perfect tense and a present perfect tense is that the past perfect tense, as you have said is to tell us which event comes first when there are two past actions in the same sentence.

    The present perfect on the other hand tells us about an event in the past that is relevant to the present. For example:

    Look! I have found these two children who are lost.
    The act of finding the children is relevant to the present because they are with you now and they are lost now.

    So,
    2. The morning of the day I got sick, I have been thinking. (If this is not okay, why?)
    this would not work becasue it isn't relevant to the present.

    Yes, it is something you did before you got sick and couldn't think anymore.


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    Re: Past Perfect

    http://lifestyle.sympatico.msn.ca/Bo...etect=&abc=abc

    1. By working overtime, Keith had moved into a higher tax bracket. (Where is the second event for this? I can't see it.)
    2. By working overtime, Keith moved into a higher tax bracket. (For the webpage link above, what's the use of past perfect in that article? Doesn't it mean the same with I use past simple?)

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    Re: Past Perfect

    The second event would, presumably, be the moment when he had to pay his taxes.


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    Re: Past Perfect

    If these are not correct, why? What do they mean?
    1. In case you hadn't noticed, I'm getting married today.
    2. In case you haven't noticed, I'm getting married today. (If this is not okay, why? 'haven't'=past to present. Don't you say 'In case you haven't noticed' first? Then you say 'I'm getting married.' ? Or the order doesn't matter? Because I can say 'I'm getting married today, in case you haven't noticed.' , which is wrong?)

    3. In case you hadn't noticed, you're somewhat articulate.
    4. In case you haven't noticed, you're somewhat articulate.

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    Last edited by jack; 22-Feb-2005 at 22:49.

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