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    Help me with these, please.

    As conversational phrases, which one(s) of the following would you say more acceptable? Or more commonly used, or less strange?

    When going to a party:
    Jeans and T-shirt would be fine.
    Jeans and a T-shirt would be fine.
    (possibly 1st one?)

    When inviting someone to your place or to a party:
    We got everything we need, so don't bring anything.
    We've got everything we need, so don't bring anything.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    Bring you own beverage.
    Bring your own beverages.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    Asking about one's schedule:
    Are you busy/free May 23rd?
    Are you busy/free on May 23rd?
    (possibly both?)

    Are you busy/free Monday?
    Are you busy/free on Monday?
    (possibly both?)

    Do you have any plans tomorrow night?
    Do you have any plans for tomorrow night?
    (possibly both?)

    When replying to an invitation:
    Not on 10th, I'm busy that day.
    Not on the 10th, I'm busy that day.
    (possibly both?)

    Unless something (else) comes up, I can make it.
    Not unless something (else) comes up, I can make it.
    (possibly 1st one?)

    Sorry, I pass this time.
    Sorry, I'll pass this time.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    When asking for a favor:
    Would you mind if I ask you to help me with this?
    Would you mind if I asked you to help me with this?
    (grammatically 2nd one, but colloquially both?)

    Thank you very much.


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    Re: Help me with these, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by bouji View Post
    As conversational phrases, which one(s) of the following would you say more acceptable? Or more commonly used, or less strange?

    When going to a party:
    Jeans and T-shirt would be fine.
    Jeans and a T-shirt would be fine.
    (possibly 1st one?)

    The second one though the first is possible in fast speech.


    When inviting someone to your place or to a party:
    We got everything we need, so don't bring anything.
    We've got everything we need, so don't bring anything.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    You'll hear both. Remember your thread about compressed speech, Bouji. One such compression that often takes place with this structure and other uses of <'ve> in the present perfect. In fast speech, the 've is often lightly voiced to completely unvoiced.


    Bring you own beverage/booze.
    Bring your own beverages/booze.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    Of the two, I'd say the first would be more common. But BYOB [bee-why-oh-bee] is probably the most common.

    Asking about one's schedule:
    Are you busy/free May 23rd?
    Are you busy/free on May 23rd?
    (possibly both?)

    I agree.


    Are you busy/free Monday?
    Are you busy/free on Monday?
    (possibly both?)

    I agree.


    Do you have any plans tomorrow night?
    Do you have any plans for tomorrow night?
    (possibly both?)

    I agree.

    When replying to an invitation:
    Not on 10th, I'm busy that day.
    Not on the 10th, I'm busy that day.
    (possibly both?)

    No, I can't see anyone dropping the 'the'.


    Unless something (else) comes up, I can make it.
    Not unless something (else) comes up, I can make it.
    (possibly 1st one?)

    Yup.


    Sorry, I pass this time.
    Sorry, I'll pass this time.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    Yup. But it sounds a little bit curt to me when someone has invited you.

    When asking for a favor:
    Would you mind if I ask you to help me with this?
    Would you mind if I asked you to help me with this?
    (grammatically 2nd one, but colloquially both?)

    Grammatically both are fine. You'll hear both. Using the past tense FORM 'asked' just makes it a little bit less direct/more deferential, softer, more polite.

    Thank you very much.
    You're most welcome, Bouji.

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    #3

    Re: Help me with these, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by bouji View Post
    As conversational phrases, which one(s) of the following would you say more acceptable? Or more commonly used, or less strange?

    When going to a party:
    Jeans and T-shirt would be fine. This is ok.
    Jeans and a T-shirt would be fine. This is ok too.
    (possibly 1st one?)

    When inviting someone to your place or to a party:
    We got everything we need, so don't bring anything.
    We've got everything we need, so don't bring anything. This is ok, I would say, "We have everything we need..."
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    Bring you own beverage.
    Bring your own beverages. These are both ok. "Drinks" would be more commonly used.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    Asking about one's schedule:
    Are you busy/free May 23rd?
    Are you busy/free on May 23rd? I prefer this one.
    (possibly both?)

    Are you busy/free Monday?
    Are you busy/free on Monday? I prefer this one.
    (possibly both?)

    Do you have any plans tomorrow night?
    Do you have any plans for tomorrow night? Both are ok.
    (possibly both?)

    When replying to an invitation:
    Not on 10th, I'm busy that day.
    Not on the 10th, I'm busy that day. I prefer this one.
    (possibly both?)

    Unless something (else) comes up, I can make it. This one is correct.
    Not unless something (else) comes up, I can make it. This doesn't make sense.
    (possibly 1st one?)

    Sorry, I pass this time.
    Sorry, I'll pass this time. This one is ok.
    (possibly 2nd one?)

    When asking for a favor:
    Would you mind if I ask you to help me with this?
    Would you mind if I asked you to help me with this?
    (grammatically 2nd one, but colloquially both?) Yes.

    Thank you very much.
    Bhai.

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