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    Small question about "a" and "an"

    Hello all!
    Sorry for creating this thread, but I could not use the search function because of the shortage of the words.

    I'm currently arguing with a guy and I'm sure I'm right.
    It would be nice if you could answer it.

    He wrote: "An UT3 Frag Movie" and I say it must be "A UT3 Frag Movie" because you would spell [you-tee-three], or not?
    In German I would spell [u], but I'm very sure it's not the same as in English.
    Same as US (United States).
    "A US server" would be right, not "An US server".

    The guy says:
    "My English is proper in "An UT3 Movie". Look it up. Sounds funny, but its grammatically correct. "
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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello all!
    Sorry for creating this thread, but I could not use the search function because of the shortage of the words.

    I'm currently arguing with a guy and I'm sure I'm right.
    It would be nice if you could answer it.

    He wrote: "An UT3 Frag Movie" and I say it must be "A UT3 Frag Movie" because you would spell [you-tee-three], or not?
    In German I would spell [u], but I'm very sure it's not the same as in English.
    Same as US (United States).
    "A US server" would be right, not "An US server".

    The guy says:
    Greets
    "An" is used when the next SOUND is a vowel sound, not when there's a vowel.

    an herbal remedy
    a United States Senator
    a unique circumstance

    The function of the "n" is to avoid the difficulty of pronouncing two vowel sounds back-to-back. So it's used when there's a vowel sound, and not used if there isn't.

    a Materials Safety handbook
    an MS handbook

    an historical accident (because the "h" in "historical" is so lightly pronounced: an 'istorical accident)
    (note: this is often WRITTEN as "a historical accident," but often PRONOUNCED "an 'istorical accident')
    Last edited by Ann1977; 30-Sep-2009 at 12:10.

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Yes, I have already known this.
    I just was not fully sure if the Americans or English people would speak it differently than I thought.

    I like your explanation and I would like to quote it if you have no problem with that

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Yes, I have already known this.
    I just was not fully sure if the Americans or English people would speak it differently than I thought.

    I like your explanation and I would like to quote it if you have no problem with that

    Greets
    Sure. Be my guest.

    Here's an edu site (Perdue University) -- or a dot edu site -- that says the same thing:
    How to Use Articles (a/an/the) - The OWL at Purdue

    Here's what Wiki says
    A and an - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Yes, I have already known this.
    I just was not fully sure if the Americans or English people would speak it differently than I thought.

    I like your explanation and I would like to quote it if you have no problem with that

    Greets
    Cheers can be used the way you use Greets (after southern German no doubt), but we say "greetings" as a noun. Greets is a verb.

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Okay, thank you all for your help.
    I will remember these things!

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ann1977 View Post
    an historical accident (because the "h" in "historical" is so lightly pronounced: an 'istorical accident)
    (note: this is often WRITTEN as "a historical accident," but often PRONOUNCED "an 'istorical accident')
    Hmm, this is an important point!
    If I understand well, the correct way to write it should always be "a historical accident", right? What do you really mean here, is it accepted to write "an historical ... " or is it a usual mistake to write it like that?

    And regarding the pronunciation of the words "history", "historical", etc.? I know in the standard pronunciation the "h" is pronounced in these words. Are there situations where one does not pronounce the "h" here at all in such words derived from "history"?

    Would you mind please telling us something in the same lines regarding the word "horizon"? I have checked the "h" in "horizon" is pronounced - but maybe something similar occurs here too?

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Thanks again!

    The guy, who is discussing with me, does still not believe me.
    He says it's an abbreviation:
    "This is an Unreal Tournament 3 movie"
    "This is a UT3 movie".
    He says since UT3 = Unreal Tournament 3, I have to use the "an" for the "UT3".
    However, I think the "a" is the one and only true form because you simply spell "a [you-tee-three] movie".

    P.S: The guy is an American, that means he has a language bonus compared to me...

    Greetings

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    Cheers can be used the way you use Greets (after southern German no doubt), but we say "greetings" as a noun. Greets is a verb.
    Yes, but we don't say "greetings" at the end of a post or a conversation.
    At least, I don't.

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    Re: Small question about "a" and "an"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Thanks again!

    The guy, who is discussing with me, does still not believe me.
    So why not drop it. You're right and he's wrong. Do you have money on it?

    He says it's an abbreviation:
    "This is an Unreal Tournament 3 movie"
    "This is a UT3 movie".
    He's correct up to here.

    He says since UT3 = Unreal Tournament 3, I have to use the "an" for the "UT3".
    Well, you don't. Most people would think that "an UT3 movie" sounds quite strange.
    However, I think the "a" is the one and only true form because you simply spell "a [you-tee-three] movie".
    Sounds obvious to me.
    P.S: The guy is an American, that means he has a language bonus compared to me...
    Maybe, but Americans have been known to be wrong ...
    Ask him if he says an UFO, for an "Unidentified Flying Object".
    Greetings
    Tschues
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