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    What tense is this please?

    "If she hadn't overslept, she wouldn't have noticed." I thought it was the past perfect but I've been told I'm wrong, looking in text books but just getting more and more confused. Any help would be much appreciated?


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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Quote Originally Posted by noobz View Post
    "If she hadn't overslept, she wouldn't have noticed." I thought it was the past perfect but I've been told I'm wrong, looking in text books but just getting more and more confused. Any help would be much appreciated?
    "If she hadn't overslept,

    Hi Noobz.

    This is the past perfect FORM. We use it in English combined with "if" to talk about past counterfactuals/opposite to fact events.

    "If + [past perfect FORM]

    In this case,

    If she hadn't overslept = She overslept

    I said 'hi' to you, Noobz. If I hadn't written a response to your question, I probably wouldn't have said 'hi' to you today.

    Fact: She came to my house. She got a piece of cake.

    Past event Counterfactual: If she hadn't come to my house, she wouldn't have gotten a piece of cake [from me].

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    she wouldn't have noticed."

    This is a modal perfect FORM which is often used, though not always to describe the result of what would have happened "IF"

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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Hi, thank you very much for your response. I wrote that it was the Past Perfect Tense in my answer and my teacher said I was wrong and I should look at the tense again. As you agree with me and my text book seems to agree with me, the only thing I can think is she wants me to include that it is the Conditional Past Perfect in my answer.


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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Quote Originally Posted by noobz View Post
    Hi, thank you very much for your response. I wrote that it was the Past Perfect Tense in my answer and my teacher said I was wrong and I should look at the tense again. As you agree with me and my text book seems to agree with me, the only thing I can think is she wants me to include that it is the Conditional Past Perfect in my answer.
    Maybe the teacher is suggesting that it isn't a tense at all. Why not ask the teacher, Noobz? The quiz is over and done with, is it not?

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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Maybe the teacher is suggesting that it isn't a tense at all.
    In that case, why ask Noobz to look at the tense again?

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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Maybe the teacher is suggesting that it isn't a tense at all.
    In that case, why ask Noobz to look at the tense again?

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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Quote Originally Posted by noobz View Post
    I wrote that it was the Past Perfect Tense in my answer and my teacher said I was wrong and I should look at the tense again. As you agree with me and my text book seems to agree with me, the only thing I can think is she wants me to include that it is the Conditional Past Perfect in my answer.
    Did the question ask only about the first verb or did it include both verbs? If it didn't specify, she might be after the term 'Third Conditional', though that isn't really a tense.


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    Re: What tense is this please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    In that case, why ask Noobz to look at the tense again?
    I believe that I suggested asking the teacher what the issue was, Tdol. I don't recall asking Noobz "to look at the tense again". I'm not even sure what you mean.

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