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    subject vs subjected

    " ... our leaders were not so different from us; that they remained subject to laws and our collective consent." (from an American book)

    I wonder if one could write subjected instead os subject above.

    Another question regarding the same sentence: should not one write the preposition to after and : " ... laws and to our collective ... " ?

    PS Feel free to correct any mistakes in this post

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    Exclamation Re: subject vs subjected

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    " ... our leaders were not so different from us; that they remained subject to laws and our collective consent." (from an American book)

    I wonder if one could write subjected instead os subject above.

    Another question regarding the same sentence: should not one write the preposition to after and : " ... laws and to our collective ... " ?

    PS Feel free to correct any mistakes in this post
    Here 'subject' is acting as an adjective and not verb. subject to something means: depending on the stated thing(that they remained) happening, as:
    We plan to go on Wednesday, subject to your approval.

    Second 'to' is not required as laws and our collective consent is a compound word(noun)

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    Re: subject vs subjected

    Quote Originally Posted by sarat_106 View Post
    Here 'subject' is acting as an adjective and not verb. subject to something means: depending on the stated thing(that they remained) happening, as:
    We plan to go on Wednesday, subject to your approval.

    Second 'to' is not required as laws and our collective consent is a compound word(noun)
    Ok, I understand both original sentences are correct the way they are.
    Thank you for your important explanation.

    However I ask if the other options are strictly wrong. If one writes
    "They reamained subjected to laws."
    "Our plan is subjected to your approval."
    Is it wrong?

    And regarding the other one - if one writes
    to laws and to our collective consent
    Is it wrong?

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    Exclamation Re: subject vs subjected

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    Ok, However I ask if the other options are strictly wrong. If one writes
    "They reamained subjected to laws."
    "Our plan is subjected to your approval."
    Is it wrong?

    And regarding the other one - if one writes
    to laws and to our collective consent
    Is it wrong?
    Subject can be used as verb but in that case, subject to becomes a phrasal verb; meaning: to force someone or something to experience something very unpleasant, especially over a long time in a very severe way . It is used more in passive form than active
    While he was in prison, he was subjected to frequent beatings.
    The report has been subjected to detailed analysis.
    Police subjected him to hours of questioning. (active)

    So you can not replace an adjective with a phrasal verb having specific meaning.
    Prices are subject to change and not; Prices are subjected to change.

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